• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    His dad is a Morman sheriff in Utah…

    Besides his skin tone being “blank piece of copy paper” that’s likey the main reason he was taken in alive.

    It’s not like he told his “dad” so much as turned himself in.

    There’s going to be a lot of pressure for him to plea out, that way the government can say whatever they want. He might even get Epstein’s in jail, they’ve already committed to a narrative, they can’t let him take the stand or worse start giving interviews about why he did it

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        12 hours ago

        That was before they knew who he was…

        They want a Black transexual with blue hair, and they got a white suburban kid from a prominent Mormon and Republican family…

        Maga is scared shitless of the Mormon, if they break away Republicans are fucked without Utah.

        And their more loyal to a random member of their own church than to trump. trump is going to quickly pivot to wanting everyone to stop paying attention by Monday.

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          Also could destabilize Republican influence in Arizona and Idaho as well, while their influence in Arizona is waning slightly their influence in Idaho especially southern Idaho is still extremely strong.

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          Doubtful. Mormons aren’t going to support murder and Kirk had that veneer of reasonableness that made him the wolf in sheep’s clothing that he was. Despite quotes being thrown around, Kirk’s fascism was more subtle because otherwise he wouldn’t have attracted the uninitiated the way he did.

          Mormons will disown him and MAGA will keep their hold on Utah. It might even increase since everyone loves a martyr.

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            Mormons aren’t going to support murder

            Have you heard, like, anything about Mormanism?

            Quick edit:

            Like, too many examples for me to possibly list them all, but Netflix made a whole TV show about this one:

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_Massacre

            The Mountain Meadows Massacre (September 7–11, 1857) was a series of attacks during the Utah War that resulted in the mass murder of at least 120 members of the Baker–Fancher wagon train.[1][a] The massacre occurred in the southern Utah Territory at Mountain Meadows, and was perpetrated by settlers from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) involved with the Utah Territorial Militia (officially called the Nauvoo Legion) who recruited and were aided by some Southern Paiute Native Americans.[2] The wagon train, made up mostly of immigrant families from Arkansas, was bound for California, traveling on the Old Spanish Trail that passed through the Territory.

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            11 hours ago

            They have 100 billion in a “wealth fund” for the church, about 40% of which is in the US stock market.

            The members of their church are also incredibly submissive and will do whatever their church leaders say, including voting.

            Republicans have a very thin majority in both the House and Senate.

            Losing the Mormon church, would mean trump loses majority in both. And would prevent a Republican from becoming president.

            They’re a very large and important bloc of the Republican party.

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        11 hours ago

        Rock and a hard place…

        If he says he’s LGBTQ, the church disowns him and Utah will push for death penalty again.

        His best bet is to double down on Mormonism and say he did it for all the reasons Kirk and MAGA go against the Mormon teachings.

        Which again, worst case scenario for trump because he can’t afford to lose Utah and the Mormon church controls Utah politics.

        We’re gonna have to see how the next week goes, but this could lead to a huge fracture ahead of midterms. Republicans have a 6 seat lead, and 4 seats in Utah are up in 2026.