I think it’s more that one delivery is a drop in the bucket while achieving a constant stream of deliveries (e.g. the public puts enough pressure on their respective governments) could meaningfully address the problem
The objective is to draw attention to the famine that Israel is causing by publicising how Israel blocks the entry of aid with a very tangible example.
They just don’t expect to be allowed through. If they are, great! Then they’d do this again with an even bigger flotilla, and keep helping people as long as they’re allowed to.
However, what they expect to happen is that they’ll be stopped. So they’re making sure they’re positioned to take full advantage of that, too.
They’re going to get stopped either way. A flotilla of 27 civilian ships isn’t sneaking past one of the most advanced, heavily armed navies in the world, no matter how “sneaky” they try to be.
At least this way they’re on record for stopping the delivery.
To point out its purposeful starvation. Israel claims they don’t have to,provide aid, it’s a war. This points out the hypocrisy that Israel are preventing peaceful aid. Israel are using hunger and famine as a weapon of war, to eliminate a people. Aka genocide and war crimes,
Yer they still receive support and they still block aid. This is to make it clear to those that don’t know, or that think Israel is within its rights to do so.
So alleviating their suffering isn’t the objective
I’m surprised a .ml account is saying this.
Still, I’m curious if they have a real distribution plan should they make it through. I don’t imaging desperate people are going to make an orderly line, nor that the IDF will just watch it happen.
While some people defend the Russian invasion of Ukraine in ML, I have never seen comments as disturbing as those on .world that defend Israel unconditionally and blame Hamas for the genocide. Some even go so far as to claim that Palestinians do not exist, and that the entire land belongs to Jews because God supposedly gave it to them, or based on other stupid ancestral arguments.
It’s a tankie instance?? I just saw that the description was lemmy.ml, I took it as to mean the most ‘generic’ one. (Given that it is ‘lemmy’) Where was this extra description?
Also I thought everyone was free to just choose whichever and there was no difference in the kind of accessibility or privilege to choosing one over another?
Alright. Well everyone is entitled to their opinions. If we need to bring classism even into a federated environment, I guess it’s all in human nature.
So alleviating their suffering isn’t the objective, rather to point out that they are suffering?
I think it’s more that one delivery is a drop in the bucket while achieving a constant stream of deliveries (e.g. the public puts enough pressure on their respective governments) could meaningfully address the problem
The objective is to draw attention to the famine that Israel is causing by publicising how Israel blocks the entry of aid with a very tangible example.
They just don’t expect to be allowed through. If they are, great! Then they’d do this again with an even bigger flotilla, and keep helping people as long as they’re allowed to.
However, what they expect to happen is that they’ll be stopped. So they’re making sure they’re positioned to take full advantage of that, too.
I understand it better now, clearly there are others that didn’t like my question. I guess there are ‘stupid’ questions to ask.
But regardless, the take for me is that they are taking more a ‘martyrdom’ sort of approach, which I completely respect.
They’re going to get stopped either way. A flotilla of 27 civilian ships isn’t sneaking past one of the most advanced, heavily armed navies in the world, no matter how “sneaky” they try to be.
At least this way they’re on record for stopping the delivery.
if they try to sneak for sure they are getting killed
To point out its purposeful starvation. Israel claims they don’t have to,provide aid, it’s a war. This points out the hypocrisy that Israel are preventing peaceful aid. Israel are using hunger and famine as a weapon of war, to eliminate a people. Aka genocide and war crimes,
Everybody know that israel claims are BS. All leaders now that the occupying force has the obligation to provide necessities to the occupied
Yer they still receive support and they still block aid. This is to make it clear to those that don’t know, or that think Israel is within its rights to do so.
The downside to the plan failing is that they alleviate suffering.
By… Increasing visibility and pressuring the other governments to act?
Or deliver the Aid. Win Win. (Doesn’t seem like the right word, but nevermind.)
I feel like in an alternate world, the mexican cartels find their humanity and use their drug subs to deliver aid would be a great story
I’m surprised a
.mlaccount is saying this.Still, I’m curious if they have a real distribution plan should they make it through. I don’t imaging desperate people are going to make an orderly line, nor that the IDF will just watch it happen.
While some people defend the Russian invasion of Ukraine in ML, I have never seen comments as disturbing as those on .world that defend Israel unconditionally and blame Hamas for the genocide. Some even go so far as to claim that Palestinians do not exist, and that the entire land belongs to Jews because God supposedly gave it to them, or based on other stupid ancestral arguments.
Good ole nakba denial
Im on Lemmy a fair amount, but I’ve not seen that on
.world. Still wouldn’t surprise me given its one of the biggest instance.I’ve seen this kind of stereotyping around - what’s this about different attributes associated with different Lemmy domains? I just made a random one.
Tankie instance, but more relevant one that has a strong dislike of pragmatism when discussing leftist issues.
It’s a tankie instance?? I just saw that the description was lemmy.ml, I took it as to mean the most ‘generic’ one. (Given that it is ‘lemmy’) Where was this extra description?
Also I thought everyone was free to just choose whichever and there was no difference in the kind of accessibility or privilege to choosing one over another?
The
.mlstands for Marxist Leninist. Not really, but that’s how they use it. It is a generic instance, but it does have that reputation.I love their passion for issues, but their stubborn unpractical approach to solutions is frustrating.
Whaaat? Is there a list of other domains and what political agendas they stand for? Or what’s a completely politically neutered instance?
Also there definitely was nothing like that in the description. I feel like I’m being profiled. What’s going on
Neutral? Not sure there is. Maybe ask in one of the ask Lemmy communities. Tho generally Lemmy is left leaning as a whole.
Alright. Well everyone is entitled to their opinions. If we need to bring classism even into a federated environment, I guess it’s all in human nature.
.ml moment