i object to this because the phrasing “invasion” still makes it out like the DPRK are the bad guys
it was a civil war, the lead up to the civil war seeing the South have a police dictatorship supported by the U.S. which did literally every awful thing the u.s. has accused the DPRK of doing, including killing people for the wrong fucking haircut
notice how literally no american ever talks about the U.S. civil war with “the North invaded the South”
and they’re the good guys because they “ended slavery”*
*terms and conditions apply
Eeeh, plenty of American civil war revisionists go for that argument actually, it was even a major theme of the ken burns documentary
notice how literally no american ever talks about the U.S. civil war with “the North invaded the South”
“War of Northern Aggression” anyone?
USA is a threat to world peace.
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Try not to be racist challenge: impossible.
I remember seeing a “Yakko’s World, but with every country the US has bombed since WWII” and was sad to see they forgot the first one in the song, “America”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing
(Any other times?)
I’m surprised that there are countries we haven’t bombed 🙃
Hoping UK is next.
Technically the UK should be red since canada was a british colony. But the map is lacking in general (like hungary and bulgaria not being red)
Working hard at it tho
hmm … sorry for being so critical. But where does this qualifiy as a meme? It is more like a “straw man” for politics discussion. That’s what you want, right?
You’re right the bottom image is wrong a country can’t invade itself.
Also that is not what a straw man is.
Why is Ukraine not red on the bottom map?
North Koreans didn’t fight in Ukraine. They fought in Russia.
Russia should be red for “supporting dictators”, too.
Oh I just noticed that we only count invasions for DPRK instead of all the other things.
The dictators that the USA supports are people who don’t have popular support or a pre-existing legal framework they derive their power from. They are governors working as proxies for the USA, deriving their authority from the USAs guns. It doesn’t just mean people you don’t like. Russia’s “democracy” is as legitimate as most European liberal democracies. The DPRK has never propped up a dictator, they don’t have the power to.
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What’s France doing in red? That’s like the ONE invasion for which people had no complaints 😂 More nazi punching and less overthrow of democratic governments, please.
Canada? I can’t find a reference to where we’ve “invaded, bombed, couped, supported dictators, supported terrorists and/or interfered in elections” in Canada since 1900. Nor Greenland, though we did put nuclear weapons there without being clear about it, if that counts.
There is so much context missing here it is crazy. This is such a shameless use of manipulative statistics, it would only convince the dumbest of people of its argument.
What do you think a ‘statistic’ is?
I can’t tell if your question is a poorly veiled critique of my comment, or if you genuinely don’t see the presentation of data in the post. The image literally has a grouping of data points conveying a narrative; that’s statistics. A collection of quantitative data. Just because its bad statistics doesn’t mean it isn’t.
Okay, I’ll bite, what do you think is missing or how could this information be made to be accurate?
Sure, fuck America. But also, fuck North Korea, you know?
Comeon guys. Let’s be reasonable and find the common ground. I mean yeah, pff, whatever fuck Hitler I get it. But seriously. Fuck the Jews, you know?
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I beg your pardon, what? None of those things are true of Australia.
Love that they change the metric between the two. Also, I am not a fan of DPRK. but I’ve never once described them in that way.
And just in case no one in the back can hear, JUST BC USA IS AWFUL DOESN’T MEAN OTHER REGIMES ARE GOOD.
Who did the dprk coup or bomb?
japan? at least they’ve attempted it a couple of times
And of course you have no source…
i wasn’t really interested in continuing the conversation.
and yet you replied anyway…
yeah i thought it was common knowledge. there a have been hundreds of missile launch events at or through other countries’ territory. wikipedia has not one but several, extensively sourced lists with maps. didn’t really expect pushbacks on such a well-documented thing. i’ll be going now.
So you think that those missiles were actually intended to hit targets but failed. That’s interesting, what exactly do you base that belief on?
Yeah a lot of state department propaganda is common “knowledge”. Just because a bunch of westerners believe something does not mean it has any merit.
Wikipedia itself should never be trusted just because it has “sources” literally anyone can contribute to wikipedia and it has been well known for decades it has a massive bias against the west’s designated adversaries. Would you care to share some of the sources cited by wikipedia?
You can’t be serious 😂
???
High-trajectory missile tests are not missile attacks or attempts thereof.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_Korean_missile_tests
lol
lmao, even
Friend, the ones telling you the other “regimes are awful” IS the US empire
mostly seen dpkr be called a threat to it’s own citizen, which is very true
According to people who do not live in the DPRK
Considering they supposedly punish multiple generations for defectors…I wouldnt call the emigration without consequences…
Very interesting story by a NK defector.
Do you understand MATH, motherfucker, do you? Do you understand exponential explosion? If North Korea punished MULTIPLE GENERATIONS the entire country would be dead
The liberal neurons turn off at the mention of state department propaganda activation phrases, it’s like applying a LoRA to an AI model
Literally can’t even see through the most blatant propaganda
Roberta Cohen’s organisation reported, that that’s what some of the survivors/escapee’s from NK reported.
She’s an ancient woman who has been going around the world convincing Western (mostly USian) people to help others (including when the USA made them refugees).
Just by the virtue of her trying to help people I believe her.
You on the other hand are a random nobody in the internet acting like someone poisoned by the USian propaganda (but with an opposite vector).
Did you know that most people during WW2 believed Nazi death camps are Allies propaganda?
“supposedly” doing a lot of heavy lifting there.
Didnt travel there. Can’t prove it
No investigation no right to speak.
