• john_brown [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    4 days ago

    Seems like if the captain survived he should be charged for the deaths of his crew members. He was given a clear order by Yemeni forces in their territorial waters and ignored it. He might as well have sunk the ship himself.

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    The Eternity C bulk carrier had been heading north toward the Suez Canal when it came under fire by men in small boats and by bomb-carrying drones on Monday night. Security guards on board also fired their weapons. The European Union Operation Aspides and the private security firm Ambrey both reported those details.

    Not clear to me if they were actually “mariners” or basically soldiers.

    • Horse {they/them}@lemmygrad.ml
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      the security detail was reportedly 3 people with 22 crew according to this, which i would personally trust to report maritime things better than cbs

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            So the scenario here is that they live in country A, make some delivery to country B, and over the course of or just after that delivery they get an assignment to deliver something else to country C, such that they had no idea they’d be going there when they were in country A? I admit that I don’t know how the logistics work here.

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              generally you sign on to a company, the company assigns you to a ship and you crew it for ~6-10 months usually, wherever it goes
              a lot of crew are from the Philippines, as was the case with this ship

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                And the shipping isn’t all mapped out ship-by-ship that far in advance, so they likely found out that they’d be going in these waters after they had been on assignment and outside of e.g. the Philippines for some time? Is that right?

                Well, I suppose either way my stance is that it’s mainly the company’s fault for endangering the crew, since it would be irresponsible for Houthis to allow human shield tactics to perpetuate the genocide.

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                  so they likely found out that they’d be going in these waters after they had been on assignment and outside of e.g. the Philippines for some time? Is that right?

                  pretty much, yeah

                  ultimately the responsibility lies with the captain, he needlessly endangered the crew by refusing to comply with the Houthis’ orders