The title says it all, I was very gun ho for Ukraine but I am now more jaded and think both sides are bad and that Ukraine needs to just give up territory and end the war.
I also learned how this is a proxy war and Ukraine has made itself a willing pawn of the American empire, I am sorry you don’t get to join the imperial core and except sympathy.
Now that the genocide in Palestine is happening I don’t know how anyone has the will to care about what is happening in Ukraine, Ukraine also supports this genocide so that deprives them of any right to sympathy to any not racist human.
I think White people liked getting to play victim for once and good for you but play time is over
I see two possibilities:
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You get paid for posting this kind of nonsense - in which case then I get it, everyone has to make a living.
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Your brain is actually broken
A quick run through your recent posts have shown that you’re actually the author of some of the worst posts I’ve come across on here, so kudos. But I’m afraid it’s now a “no” from me, and I’ll be blocking you from now on.
I’m so glad Lemmy has tags for people like OP
what are the tags ? Can I see them if not tell me what they are ?
I am not scared I can take the banter
Is that a feature of an app you use? If yours, which app? I don’t see it in the web interface.
So your a fragile white cracker ? I see how it is no wonder you like Ukraine
Also I am not getting paid but I would take money to write this, I was going to do it anyways so get that bag.
I am a rich bitch I make money on onlyfans so you and your ukrainian cucks can stay broke
My lord, you need to touch some grass. “White cracker” really? That has to be the lamest insult one could hurl at someone. “Ukrainian cucks”? Come on, try harder.
They don’t have time to touch grass they are to busy being a Kmart pornstar.
kamrt went up like a decade ago, you are austrian how do you know what k mart is do they still have them there ?
Having money doesn’t mean shit.
So ur a racist who hates white people got it. Rich huh? Anyone who says that they are rich is not in fact rich. Ur a low life selling your body to a bunch of sad fucks and u think that makes u anything other than a whore? Or ur a troll Idk.
i live in the san fernando valley with my boyfriend peasents can stay mad
OK so being as generous as possible that’s 3k rent per month assuming a reasonable rent to income ratio that’s about 100k a year. That’s not rich. Assuming u have 20years of of money at ur current rate before u fall off that’s about 1.5mill in total savings assuming u aren’t blowing it all. Thats fuck all in the scheme of things. That’s hardly a drop in the bucket. I’m sure it feels like a lot to some trailer park trash like urself but that’s not rich that’s a comfortable lower middle class.
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I stand with Ukraine. Why should they give up their sovereign land to an invader? I’d say the say damn thing if it was the US as the aggressor.
Russia invaded Ukraine, unprovoked, and you call for Ukraine to give up its land? That’s absurd.
It is absolutely possible to care about more than one thing at a time.
True and say what you want about American wars, they don’t take territory for themselves. Russia on the other hand
Why should any state inherently exist? I’ll say it about the US and ill say it about Russia. No state deserves to exist, the second their military is no longer strong enough to enforce their rule they dissapear.
So in short the arguement is… over time it should be like corporations in America, we just watch as the biggest eat the smaller ones until we’ve just got one giant nation? Isn’t that basically the plot of 1984… (basically the world is down to 3 super nations… with effectively the same government. In perpetual war with eachother just to make sure resources don’t pile up to the point where everyone can survive comfortably.
Because I mean that’s basically it, having diverse nations is a good thing. Allows us to actually see differences in laws, learn from different governments, good ideas can be copied, bad ideas can be avoided. Any big nation can trample all the smaller ones. It’s a really bad idea to let them.
So when a sovereign nation can no longer defend itself from a more powerful one, they should cede their lands and resources? That’s ridiculous.
The west has used that logic for decades to justify brutal military occupations. I say that land and resource belong to no state, any claim of ownership is inherent violence.
No, rich people have used that as justification. Poor people don’t invade countries. Poor people flee from persecution. Beyond race, gender, or religion, it’s always the perceived wealthy that cause all of the problems. Everyone else is responding to their policies and laws.
Let’s come back to reality, yeah?
Why should your comment exist? Why should sky exist? Why should exist? blah blah blah
Im not militarily occupying a land, stripping the natural resources, and extracting labor value from a people while justifying under it the pretext of a national identity and state wealth. They talk of national unity yet their capitalists exploit the workers all the same.
If I pull the string what else does it say?
If I go on the string of liberal justifications I wonder how far back I have to go before I find the CIA pulling it
It was not unprovoked, Ukraine attempted to join the imperial core and we saw what they are doing in Palestine Russia could not allow the imperial core to grow stronger, they are fighting for the colonized world
Ukraine is using that land to help America
Russia is using it to help colonized peoples
I know who I support having it
Yeah miss me with that shit. The Ukrainians deserve the right to not be invaded by any other nation. Fuck off with that imperial bullshit. They certainly had their own internal struggles. But that does not give the Russians any sort of mandate to invade, bomb and maim them. Fuck that. Russia is no better than the west. East vs west is about as stupid as it gets.
do you not know lennin ?
Russia can not be imperialist as they do not have monopoly capital sufficient to meet that stage of capitalism.
No it’s not stupid the east is clearly better then the west Russia is anti imperialist Ukraine is pro Imperialist
Looks like we’ll have to agree to disagree with your stupid take on things.
Ukraine was invaded, twice, with Russia as the aggressor. That isn’t Ukraine’s fault and they have every right to kick Russian ass as long as it takes for Russia to pull out or negotiate. Both will be politically painful so the war goes on.
And if you’re in a shooting war with Russia, who better to ask for weapons than the US? Even old outdated US equipment was designed to take on Soviet equipment so yeah you want them as friends to give your nation a fighting chance and prove to Russia and the international community that they won’t be pushovers.
And look at NATO. They are bumping defense GDP to 5%. Finland, Poland, Estonia and others are withdrawing from agreements that forbid the placement of anti-personnel mines. Even if this war ends tomorrow, nobody seems to think Russia will be satisfied for long
that 5% is torture, it is designed to punish europe for socal spending and taxing american corpos and to distrct from america’s low socal spending and so maerican can pay less
This is some housbrick IQ moment. An empire ruled by a dictator is invading a democratic nation. The reasons are irrelevant. I support democracy I think democracy is the superior form of government.
Have u looked at the numbers of people dying? Cos its significantly more people getting murked by Russia than their are even people in Palestine.
Why are u mentioning race? What relevant does that have? Or are u simply trying to use it as some twisted justification for the the murder of an entire people?
did you just try and claim more people are dying in Ukraine then Palestine ?
You fucking racist genocide denying piece of shit, I hate you
first off everyone who is dying in Ukraine are soldiers meanwhile in Palestine it’s pretty much entirely civilians.
I am mentioning race because yts are privileged and that is why the smol dick yts in the west support ukraine.
you should know this, racist through a fit recently when mamdani said he supported taxing white neighborhoods mean
this right here is white fragility.
More people are dying I’m Ukraine than Palestine that’s a fact u moron.
Please hate me. It gives me great joy to know that imperialist racists hate me.
first off everyone who is dying in Ukraine are soldiers meanwhile in Palestine it’s pretty much entirely civilians.
False and false.
I am mentioning race because yts are privileged and that is why the smol dick yts in the west support ukraine.
Privileged huh please explain how. I’m not gonna come down to ur level and be a racist but their is a reason western culture owns everything and controls everything. I can assure you its not cos western culture is a bunch of yts because if u where to say that then u would be saying that whites are the superior race and that’s some racist shit I won’t stand people supporting.
Racism is the practice of treating people differently based upon race. Taxing white neighbourhoods based on race is in fact racist.
This is not white fragility this is equality. America and the rest of the world is about to shift hard right for a couple years and people like u will be the first to get sent to concentration camps. And I’m very quickly running out of sympathy for you.
The fuck are you smoking? Russian grown weed, I guess
ok cracker
This is a crazy take man. Putin is straight up evil and invaded Ukraine for the only purpose of taking that land.
Putin is not any more evil then Trump,Biden or Netanyahu
so what if he takes their land ? Why should I care aboyt Ukraine keeping it ? they have made it clear they wil use it to support genocide so I support them losing all their land fuck them
If this hurts racist crakkker feelings I don’t care
What? Bro Ukraine was just chilling they weren’t committed genocide lmao
they were supporting genocide
No. Lol
A new and ongoing genocide does take up a lot of the air, it doesn’t stop me supporting a people who are being attacked and displaced under false pretences for the crime(?) of wanting to have self-determination as a people and attempting to align themselves with the nearest superpower that might help.
Crazy that we live in a time where that can be read as for either Ukrainians or Palestinians.
It’s mutually exclusive, by supporting Ukraine you support the genocide of Palestinians
Pick one, you can’t be neutral
I stand with the people being genocided.
Also it was not false, the ICJ still hasn’t finished ruling it could rule in favor of Russia
Crazy that we live in a time where that can be read as for either Ukrainians or Palestinians.
No we don’t, you can’t support both
Liberals still support them, and anyone who still belives US imperialism is a good thing. Basically people who will complain about Trump ending usaid not because its neocolonialism but because Trump is destroying the American empire with his incompetence.
Trump ending aid to Ukraine is the best thing he ever did, he is an idiot who thinks him and Putin can be friends
He thinks he can make anyone friends with enough money and influence, what he doesn’t realize is that he has made the money worthless and destroyed all influence.
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Ok let me ask you something
China supports Russia, why don’t you ?
Palestine supports Russia, why don’t you ?
Iran supports Russian, why don’t you ?
The DPRK supports Russia, why don’t you ?
The houthis support Russia, why don’t you ?
You think the global south is right and America is wrong every other time, why is this the one exception ?
The answer is that it isn’t. Ukraine is a racist imperialist state that supports genocide
Ok let let me ask you something
Azerbaijan supports Ukraine, why don’t you ?
Jordan supports Ukraine, why don’t you ?
Cambodia supports Ukraine, why don’t you ?
Morocco supports Ukraine, why don’t you ?
Pakistan supports Ukraine, why don’t you ?
Sudan supports Ukraine, why don’t you ?
Cherrypicking 5 examples of which most are as southern as Texas and tell me they are pars pro toto representing the whole „global south“ seems pretty racist to me.
I think you and the tankies are the only ones who support the global south and think that america is wrong.
Most people believe in democracy and liberty. Western culture is objectively better for the people than all of the nations u mentioned.
China is genociding their own Muslim population its the genocidal government that supports russia. The Palestinian people don’t give a shit about Russia its the terrorist hammas that supports Russia. The majority of the Iranian people don’t support their own government its the terrorist government that support Russia. The north Korean government will put u in a concentration camp for saying something they don’t like its the authoritarian government that support Russia. The houthis are terrorists that support Russia.
Your are being a racist imperialist supporting genocide. You are justifying the destruction of a free democratic nation by a racist, imperialist, and homophonic nation by saying look at all these other genocidal racist terrorists who support them.
Your argument is so utterly moronic that I think you are either a troll or a propaganda bot.
so many racist lies
The global south is if not better more morally pure
Democracy is not inhernetly goood and western culture is not better
Chia ins not commiting a genocide that is a li to distract from amerisrael genocide
yemoni park is a liar stop beleivng her on the dprk
i support the destruction of a racist imperialit nation by an anti racist anti imperialist nation
i am neither
Ur an idiot. I cannot argue with someone who refuses to acknowledge basic facts u can go verify urself. Ur so deep in an echo chamber of morons and tankies reality no longer has any meaning to you. You have been radicalised and that’s the sad truth.
