• samus12345@sh.itjust.works
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    9 hours ago

    Even if those leaves were a fruit, they’re not called greens. Some kinds of leaves are called that as a general term, but not the ones in the picture. He’s wrong on so many levels!

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      22 hours ago

      I’m pretty sure orange and cherry are named after the fruit, but Blackberry is true.

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              Dunno who that is but Tim Apple invented the computer and his ancestors invented the apple (in 196 AD) and just for the record if you think enjoying fruit is problematic you’re probably homophobic or something ¯\(ツ)/¯ iunno go away

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            19 hours ago

            those fuckers try to sell their fruit by using a brand’s name. They even got the design wrong, it’s supposed to have a curved side.

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        20 hours ago

        The source for this is old reddit threads, so hardly authoritative, but supposedly the color orange was actually named after the food item.

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          Yes indeed. Before we had “orange”, and also “purple” everything was just “red” which is why we have red onions and red cabbage that are anything but red and several species of bird are called red despite being clearly orange coloured.

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              Sometimes I learn something that makes me think, how the hell had I not figured that out sometime in the past half-century.

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                For some reason, french has a specific term for orange/red hair that’s quite old. So we don’t have red haired people. I don’t know if other languages share this.

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            17 hours ago

            linguistic rules override physics pedantry.

            Idk why, maybe because I’m a scientist, but this speaks to something in my soul

            • I thought briefly about editing that to say, “in this context”, but I thought it might be redundant.

              It’s like the whole fruit/vegetable debate, and there not really being a scientific category of “vegetables” that aligns with the common usage. However, in common usage, the loose, lay definition of “vegetable” is far more useful than the scientific, taxonomical one.

              Context is king.

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                Yeah. I’ve had this discussing with others in different forms, where they are arguing that words have specific definitions…

                I would go even further… My take is that what you said is right, but also, what a given context (like “cooking”) is can be very different for different people… So even in situations where three is really only one meaning for a word (rare, but maybe “broccoli” is an example), the word is understood differently by different people because it has different connotations attached for everyone (e.g. “I love/hate it”, “my grandparent used to cook it badly”).

                Word definitions are like the lowest common denominator consensus version of those individual meaning, but they are changing slightly all the time as people change. Dictionaries are just documenting that evolution, but are constantly playing catch-up.

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            Actually, the color is named after the fruit. It wasn’t until the late Middle Ages that we discovered anything other than the redcurrant that was red in color. Poppies, for example, were only discovered in ~1917, and we only found out about blood in the 1970s.

            • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.social
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              Dear Mr Encyclopedia, when were raspberries discovered? Wasn’t Avalon “the isle of apples?” When did Christian bibles start describing the forbidden fruit as “apples?” Were they not red apples?

              What color did they call ripe ribe avu-crispa (a gooseberry)?

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                The Biblical fruit is just given as “pərî” and could be any fruit. Avalon is from the Welsh aflonydd, “peaceful”, so named because it was King Arthur’s vacation spot. Raspberries have not yet been discovered, at time of writing.

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              Are you seriously trying to claim that no human ever bled and saw the colour until the 1970s? LOL

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    Red apple, green apple red strawberries, yellow strawberries, red tomatoes, green tomatoes, yellow tomatoes, purple tomatoes (although purple isn’t a real color by itself). Oh and red berries.

    You might argue it’s not the fruit’s name, but when you say “honny, can you get me some apples from the store while you’re going there please?” and she comes back with green apples, while you wanted red apples, you’d be like “fuck. I should have named it better, I only asked for half the name of what I wanted, now I need to hit my wife to blame her and hide my mistake”. So my point here is, not naming the color of the fruit in its name is the cause for domestic violence.