It’s so weird how liberals have become the unhinged pro-war hawks of the early 2000s while the conservatives have become the rational ones willing to actually discuss the specifics and oppose zealous jingoism. Like what the fuck did Obama do to the US to scramble everyone’s brains to have the opposite opinions
Conservatives like Trump, absolutely. He says whatever is expedient for him in the room he’s in at the moment.
But people like Mearsheimer, Sachs, The Duran, Syriana Analysis on Youtube, etc. I don’t think realistically think they will ever see power personally. They are ideologically motivated to question the war mongering of the west. The question is why. What changed. Because these same types of people were going nuts for western wars like Vietnam, extremely pro-war 50 years ago.
Is it really just that America went “woke” and they hate it? Is it really that simple? So if America goes back to naked reaction and jim crow era apartheid then they’ll be back on board with Western hegemony and dominance? These people really just got fooled by the fake as shit mask of “progress” America dons as it decimates the world? The thing is, these types of conservatives tend to be the least virulently reactionary of the chud subtypes so I don’t buy that explanation fully either. I’m just confused at how they arrive at their worldview halfway being based. Maybe they really are just Russian-aligned and like Putin?
I think you are definitely right, I was being quick in my speaking and not specific. The era of Jim Crow is over, they are better at smoothing that over these days with economic and cultural methods like you described.
The conservatives definitely want to return to “spheres of influence” style geopolitics, where regional powers have more direct control over their immediate sphere but respect the spheres of other regional powers. This is why they may criticize war in Ukraine or Palestine while cheering on “dealing with the border issue” with Mexico and getting tens of thousands of troops to militarize the border. Both are acts of imperialist aggression that any honest anti-imperialist would oppose - but they oppose one yet support the other in a way that seems incoherent to us with more internationalist tendencies.
Their change has only been in the size of the sphere. They used to think Eurasia was within their sphere of influence, but no longer believe that to be true. So they are backing off to respect Russia and China’s sphere.
It’s so weird how liberals have become the unhinged pro-war hawks of the early 2000s while the conservatives have become the rational ones willing to actually discuss the specifics and oppose zealous jingoism. Like what the fuck did Obama do to the US to scramble everyone’s brains to have the opposite opinions
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Conservatives like Trump, absolutely. He says whatever is expedient for him in the room he’s in at the moment.
But people like Mearsheimer, Sachs, The Duran, Syriana Analysis on Youtube, etc. I don’t think realistically think they will ever see power personally. They are ideologically motivated to question the war mongering of the west. The question is why. What changed. Because these same types of people were going nuts for western wars like Vietnam, extremely pro-war 50 years ago.
Is it really just that America went “woke” and they hate it? Is it really that simple? So if America goes back to naked reaction and jim crow era apartheid then they’ll be back on board with Western hegemony and dominance? These people really just got fooled by the fake as shit mask of “progress” America dons as it decimates the world? The thing is, these types of conservatives tend to be the least virulently reactionary of the chud subtypes so I don’t buy that explanation fully either. I’m just confused at how they arrive at their worldview halfway being based. Maybe they really are just Russian-aligned and like Putin?
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I think you are definitely right, I was being quick in my speaking and not specific. The era of Jim Crow is over, they are better at smoothing that over these days with economic and cultural methods like you described.
The conservatives definitely want to return to “spheres of influence” style geopolitics, where regional powers have more direct control over their immediate sphere but respect the spheres of other regional powers. This is why they may criticize war in Ukraine or Palestine while cheering on “dealing with the border issue” with Mexico and getting tens of thousands of troops to militarize the border. Both are acts of imperialist aggression that any honest anti-imperialist would oppose - but they oppose one yet support the other in a way that seems incoherent to us with more internationalist tendencies.
Their change has only been in the size of the sphere. They used to think Eurasia was within their sphere of influence, but no longer believe that to be true. So they are backing off to respect Russia and China’s sphere.
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He re-legitimated american military power in their eyes by being popular, charismatic and black while doing all the shit bush had done