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sucius1@lemdro.id to Europe@feddit.orgEnglish · 2 months ago

When Europe needed it most, the Ariane 6 rocket finally delivered

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When Europe needed it most, the Ariane 6 rocket finally delivered

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“For this sovereignty, we must yield to the temptation of preferring SpaceX.”…

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/39335010

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    It’s not a joke, it’s a criticism of nazi heritage during a time when nazi imagery is resurfacing.

    This is nazi imagery that never left the surface.

    I agree it’s not funny.

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      Nazi imagery? What? What the hell are you talking about?

      The name comes from the French spelling of Ariadne, a Greek mythical character.

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        It’s probably best to not feed the troll.

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          You’re right. I’ve just blocked the moron

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        Rocketry has an undeniably nazi past.

        Naming Europe’s largest rocket program since the nazis any variation of “Aryan” is nazi imagery.

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          How is Ariane a variant of Aryan?

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            If you’re an American and have no clue about European Languages or culture it makes sense I guess

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            The I and the Y serve the same phonetic function.

            Then they slapped on an “e” to make it feminine. Standard French grammar.

            It’s still racist even if it’s feminine.

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              Here’s French wikipedia calling the mythological figure “Ariane” with no D https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariane_(mythologie)

              “Aryan” in French is “aryenne”, it has a different vowel

              France had plenty of pre-WWII rocket scientists, like:

              • Yves Le Prieur, who developed anti-balloon rockets in WWI
              • Robert Esnault-Pelterie, who pioneered the use of joystick controls and founded an award for advances in space travel
              • Louis Damblanc, who built the first ever multi-stage rocket

              What France did not have was a counterpart to Operation Paperclip like Britain and the Soviet Union did

              And lastly, the guy that picked the name was a devoted supporter of Charles de Gaulle

              This criticism does not hold up any scrutiny whatsoever

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              No it really doesn’t.

              Aryan (/ˈɛəriən/)

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              Ariane (/ɑːriˈɑːnə/)

              How does the I and y serve the same phonetic function?

              And now it’s not just Nazi but racist as well? Get out of here.

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      You’re not very bright, are you? It has nothing to do with nazism, it’s a reference to Greek mythology https://ariane.group/en/news/la-genese-dariane-1-et-le-debut-dune-epopee-spatiale-europeenne-3/

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        And they conveniently left off the d in “ariadne”.

        Obvious dogwhistle is obvious.

        Changing the y to an i and adding an e to make it feminine doesn’t make it less racist.

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          No one besides you makes this association.

          Maybe it’s a you problem

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            Anyone with half a brain and knows history does.

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          It is just how it is spelled in French.

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            They chose a word that evoked the Aryan and nazi heritage.

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