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alphacyberranger@lemmy.world to World News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago

Wagner troops ‘plotting march to Russia to avenge leader’s death’

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Wagner troops ‘plotting march to Russia to avenge leader’s death’

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alphacyberranger@lemmy.world to World News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago
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Wagner mercenaries were on Thursday reported to be trying to head back into Russia after threatening retaliation over the suspected killing of their leader Yevgeny Prigozhin in a plane crash on the orders of Vladimir Putin. “The convoys are likely heading towards the border with Russia,” the centre said. “There’s a lot talk right now about what the Wagner Group will do,” he said.
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    Was there actually anything stopping them before, other than some traffic cops with a grenade launcher, and some excavator operators frantically digging up the motorway?

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      No, but they chickened out and now Putin has had a month to set up defenses

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        Military equipment in Russia protecting Putin is military equipment that can’t be used to attack Ukraine, so this is still a win.

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          Especially if Wagner manages to destroy some or a lot of them.

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            And if they don’t, their own equipment is destroyed which also belongs to Russia.

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        Putin lost his corn flakes.

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        It was a bad idea to begin with. Putin would and did flee to his bunker and then have to endure a siege on Moscow after that… There is no way they win a siege against the Russian army, in Moscow.

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          Yea but at least he would have died fighting. Now he died for nothing lol

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            Died fighting whom? The Russian populace that he seems to support, and are apathetic at worst towards him? It’s not like Putin himself was going to lead the siege charge on horse back carrying an AK or something.

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      deleted by creator

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      Wagner group doesn’t have any air assets, the Air Force probably could annihilate them on the way to Moscow. Not much cover in Russia

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        Well that did not work so well the first time. No idea if they still have any anti air capacity though.

        https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/06/26/wagner-group-shot-down-seven-russian-aircraft-coup-attempt/

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          not anymore, they had to give up all heavy equipment

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        The Russian Air Force sucks absolute balls at CAS. Apart from their general systemic issues, they don’t train for CAS, and it shows in Ukraine. Also, when Wagner tried to bum-rush Moscow the first time, pilots who actually attempted CAS missions didn’t do so well - there are several videos of them trying to airstrike Wagner positions and columns where the Russian pilots are not even close to putting munitions on-target effectively.

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          Wagner even shot down one Russian helicopter.

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        Wagner did manage to take down quite a few Russian air units in a short period of time before.

        Whether that was due to lack of organization and command among the Russian military because of the surprise of Wagner’s actions is up for debate, but I guess we might get to see how that turns out this time around.

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        https://www.businessinsider.com/wagner-prigozhin-took-down-7-russia-helicopters-plane-rebellion-ukraine-2023-6?op=1

        They have decent aa, they were brutal on Russian jets.

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          Anti-aircraft is different than air assets I get it that both are AA but I meant an air assets not anti-aircraft. 👍

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        Same could have been said for their day trip. And that saw several helicopters and a couple of fixed wing aircraft getting knocked out the sky.

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      You forget that Russia had some garbage trucks lined up as well 🧱

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        We call them tactical landfill launchers.

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        I wonder if Putin will try destroying the roads to Moscow again.

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          And run away to hide in St. Petersburg

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