Sounds like someone doesn’t know (or care) what can happen to protestors that are protesting the “wrong things”… Like oil and gas pipelines, for example, or training centers for heightened police militarization. Or foreign policy, even, that one has been happening for generations already.

Lol if only they would protest the right way, they wouldn’t have to worry about anything, right?

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If only there was a way that didn’t involve involuntarily committing people, whether to jail or a psych hospital…

You left out that mental illness and addiction are both increasingly acknowledged to very often result from the difficulties of coping with garbage social conditions – even at an individual level. What came first, the chicken or the egg?

Some wild experiments have been done out there – mostly in other countries, obv – where it turns out that when you give these deranged people housing, access to education and/or employment, and maybe even healthy social connections, they get a lot less deranged like super fucking quickly. Just wild.

Take my comment as an upvote. I think the current number is a proper reaction already :)

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The ol selection bias, good call

Point taken, thanks for taking the time to lay it out.

This feels a bit like Russia gallantly “offering” to “adopt” and “care for” Ukrainian children whose families are unfortunately, inadvertently facing some difficulties currently (e.g. death)…

Just curious, if some fascists came to your house citing historical claims to your land, how much would you care about the validity of that claim? How about when they burn your house down, kill your family, and arrest you for objecting? I truly, deeply would not give a flying fuck who lived nearby my house 300 years ago.

How many of the “terrorists” (the Islamic ones, not the Judaic ones) were actually from the oppressed populations, though? There are a lottttttt of people in that region that hate the Israeli government…Not sure how many of the displaced peoples you’re telling “this isn’t the right way to avenge violent state oppression” are actually participating in the fighting.

Yeah, this does seem like a kind of inaccurate generalization.

Does this mean you honestly wouldn’t have a preference if you were dropped into a random “place” in one of these countries’ societies and had to live the rest of your life there?

It’s easy to say “Hey, plus a few ethnic cleansings, minus an intentional lack of economic development in favor of political corruption, plus a couple of highly extractive, insecure, and immoral sets of socio-economic conditions… and I mean we’re all basically the same, amirite??”… But while each country’s civil society is kinda fucked in some fundamental ways, they seem like unique ways that are hard to compare “apples to apples”.

EDIT: Having said that, the issues in each country strongly depend on dividing lines between various “peoples”, and a manufactured assurance that your conditions are the best that they could possibly be, so…

Allow me to offer a different perspective from the previous reply: holy frickin shit, I honestly never noticed this before. Tbh I’m not sure about the intentionality behind it though.

I mean, who exactly is intentionally doing this? Intent is important here; if it’s not individually-assignable, and say emerges from a complex series of interactions between various other policies, or instances of individual decision-making - for example - then it seems hard to reasonably place “blame” like that.

This doesn’t preclude taking action against the companies which will be salient for them (e.g. puts financial viability in question, rather than BS fines that amount to parking tickets)… I mean corporations are people too, now, right? Just a thought on how to argue/clarify the premise.

Because otherwise… Yeah, wtf. A lot of dividing lines, a lot of material insecurity, and so on, and nobody has the time - let alone the resources AND perspective simultaneously - to challenge the real dynamic. One which arguably IS being perpetrated with individual intent at multiple scales, and with cancerous impacts (figuratively and literally) on the societies which enable and tolerate them.