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exactly. thank you. this is the whole impetus for the conversation of what happens to Firefox and consequently its forks.

underlying assumptions:

• many privacy-minded users use Firefox forks on desktop and possibly mobile. Without Mozilla the organization, said forks may or may not be able to continue individually on their own. However, it seems hard to argue that they would fare better if a “main” Firefox continued, possibly under the umbrella of some pre-existing group like Canonical or Linux Foundation. Better yet if Mozilla were to reverse course from its user data cash-in moves and increase its long-term stability.

seems like you’re the one who understood best what I was getting at. thanks for your opinion.

i do hope they have enough budget

i went out of my way to avoid stating any hope of FF becoming the most popular.

like you said, i actually was thinking of them capturing about 5-10% more of the market. i think that would be a significant and worthy goal. it’s enough to increase interest from potential large donors, at least slightly.

I’ve been feeling that they were getting ready to turn FF into something more commercial, and if that didn’t stabilize/increase funding enough, to shut it down entirely. so a slight and sustainable increase of users and funding is the best near term outcome, in my mind.

i went out of my way to avoid stating any hope of FF becoming the most popular. i used “stable” (as in user numbers) multiple times.

true that

Agree.

I also think a federated wiki is a great idea.

I think the way to do that is: instead of having separate realities/universes linked together by search and federation, try to unite those universes into a shared multiverse, to the greatest possible.

In other words

• ❌ merely give all federated users access to the same articles
• ✅ automatically link and embed similar articles into each other by default (collapsed, but expandable). similarity can be determined by authors’/contributors’ intentional citations, by instance owners’ filter rules, by LLM, etc.

of course, there may be attempts to obfuscate relatedness, astroturfing, brigading, whatnot. I wonder if its possible to visualize voting results for each duplicated/linked article along with the originating instance. I think this would function as a pseudo version of ‘community fact-checking’. Maybe a better name would be ‘reality-checking’ or ‘sanity-checking’ or whatever.

coincidentally, i hate the phrase “think of it this way”

thanks for literally devaluing all the work of my fellow translators and i that was stolen by Google and Bing and all the other crawlers/thieves.

it’s the same as with artists’ work being stolen by Stupid Diffusion and the rest.

not mad at you of course. but calling it free was too good a match for devaluing to pass up.

YouTuber Takashii just uploaded a video of street interviews in Japan on the topic of what tourists should/shouldn’t do in Japan.

https://youtu.be/fXV89VQ5dJQ

at least one person said that in Japan, foreigners should try to speak Japanese. some people might see a Japanese thread instance as a little piece of Japan. especially since English language education there is not on a high level.

and monolinguals outside the Anglosphere do sometimes complain that their languages are being replaced/invaded by English.

that said, i think fediverse users (if that’s where you’ve been replying) are less xenophobic than general population.

just remember that in Japan if one wants to complain about another’s behavior, it’s common to go to one’s home turf or filter bubble to do so rather than speaking to the offender directly.

damn… “Luigi’s Mansion” has a totally different ring nowadays…

sorry to anyone if my grievance wasn’t clear.

the problem is:

1. auto translated video titles make many videos seem like they’re in my language (either of my 2 fluent languages) but in fact the video is not -> ai generated title fraud
2. auto generated translated audio track -> don’t like dubs, from humans or not. if i watch a video in a language i don’t understand, i want the original audio and subtitles. always.
3. auto generated subtitles appear even when there is no talking, i.e. during sound effects or music (even instrumental)

root causes:

• ai translation is incompetent thus far and for the foreseeable future. (please don’t mention “good” ai translation between western European languages. Compared to the rest of the world these may as well be slight accents of the same language, especially but not limited to Romance<-> Romance, Germanic<->Germanic, English<->Germanic/Romance)
• YouTube corporation thinks multilingual audience don’t exist, i.e. thinks everyone only wants audio/subtitles in the settings’ selected 1 (one) language. no option to select multi languages.
• ai translated audio track can only be disabled per video during playback. no option in settings screen to disable ai generated audio (on watcher side). maybe this is Freetube issue, not sure cuz i haven’t watched YouTube directly in years.

sorry if i wasn’t clear.

edit: added clarification in the main thread

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I totally agree that the root problem exists not only with the rich old white men. They are simply one of the urgent external threats, mainly because rich people’s money gives the ability to oppress all the groups at once.

But yeah, we definitely oppress each other.

My Dad used to be a local leader in our community and he would organize parties once in a while, sometimes for a holiday, sometimes for an election, etc. It’s the type of community where everyone is considered a relative, regardless of family ties. Every single time I attended those parties, some slobbering drunk old guy would come up to me and say “Why are you still fat? You need to exercise, kid.” I was in elementary school! And the old guy had fucking fat beer belly too!

…I can’t even bring myself to talk about the shit my own Dad said to me.

Across the world, the more colonized or enveloped in majority control that the country/community is, the worse the internal oppression and othering seems to be in sub-communities.

I hate it.

thank you very much!

TL;DR

its not the labels that cause the divide. it’s the divide (the racism built into the economy and laws and communities) that causes the trauma that requires us to heal within our sub-communities. But the sub-communities are not originally homogenous; i.e. sometimes the only thing sub-communities have in common is the label/slur that “Whites” assigned us and the trauma that goes with that.

Also, for anyone who’s actually lived in the US, you know we strenuously avoid using labels about someone when talking TO that person. There are very strict social rules for which labels to use when/where/with whom. Some people break those rules, then republicans elect them as president. FYI in case its not obvious, OVER HALF of US people hate Trump (and Elon). Why are they in power, you ask? Search “usa electoral system minority rule”

I appreciate you bringing this uncertainty to the community and open yourself for discussion. I understand how it can be upsetting or feel dissonant to see US people who sometimes/often brag of being the standard for freedom and equality, but still use divisive-sounding language. And worse yet, for the outward face of the US to become even more of an international symbol for fascism and oppression than ever.

many people outside the US, and even people inside the US, get confused by seeing us talk a lot about Black, White, Asian, Latinx (historically called ‘Latino’ or ‘Hispanic’), Indigenous. They often think the labels themselves actually caused divides in US. I’ve heard this interpretation often from young people, mostly Gen Z. This also used to be a part of the “mainstream” (aka white liberals’) mindset in the 1980s/1990s in the US. I’m not white nor black and I also believed that to some level back then.

We still are always looking for new names/terms to unite with each other regardless of sub-groups. That’s how we get terms like BIPoC (Black, Indigenous, People of Color) which definitely is inconvenient without abbreviation.

Sociological research actually showed that US society was and still is divided even when we don’t use the labels. Its actually our laws, our economic practices, and “certain” groups’ superiority/inferiority mindset (psychological complex) that divide US people.

The laws, for example, sometimes create a lot of extra steps to register to vote. And when those extra steps are analyzed, it turns out it makes voting extra difficult for poor people (like that our voting days are on Tuesday, a work day, so poor people can’t always get a day off, then can’t vote). In many areas of US, the low income group is mostly one or two races, like Black and Latinx. So politicians who hate those groups can secretly make it hard for them to vote by creating voting obstacles that affect only poor people.

The economic system helps to keep people poor by creating barriers for getting house loans or starting businesses. The “Red Lining” system used to categorize land/houses in Black neighborhoods as unlikely to repay loans, so people from there (Black people) or people trying to buy homes there were not given loans. Even if banks wanted to loan to the person, the Gov’t refused to give the bank insurance. But what actually determines the ability to repay a loan? Income or assets, right? But income was usually ignored and Black people were assumed to have no assets worth money.

As for the people, when I say “superiority/inferiority mindset”, I mean that certain US pink-skin straight neurotypical people have become accustomed to feeling comfortable in a very specific way, and accustomed to not being criticized for that refusal to change, and refusal to bring other races into their lives and into their comfort zone. Research on this area found that when we don’t discuss race openly with some type of labels, children would observe and absorb parents’/adults’ implicit feelings of discomfort around other races, even if their parents were civil rights believers/activists. Then while growing up, the child believes themselves to be “non-racist” (because of the thinking “my parents/role-models were non-racist!”) while still having this discomfort. If the person realized they had this subconscious conflict and discusses it with friends of other races and in a mindset of humbleness and desire to learn, they could usually manage the discomfort and be an anti-racist (different from non-racist) without conflicted identity. However, if the person doesn’t recognize the internal conflict and eventually expresses their discomfort emotionally directed at people of other races, they would predictably face backlash. Then because they identify themselves as a non-racist, they believe the backlash was unfair and feel that they have become the victim of “political correctness” or “the woke agenda”. This scenario is EXTREMELY common in the US and, I would bet, an analogous one is common in most western countries. Particularly regarding immigrants, refugees, Roma people, or Jews.

I call the group “certain US pink-skin straight neurotypical people (PSSNTP)” because those of us with other skin color (BIPoC), other neurotypes, other sexuality have not ever had the opportunity to become that level of comfortable in the context of the entire US society that includes “straight white” people. BIPoC and LGBTQ are able to be comfortable in sub-groups that share our uncomfortable experiences. We call those groups Black, Gay, Asian, Pacific Islander, Neurodivergent, etc because other terms are more awkward/inconvenient, but also due to having bad experiences being called by those names or called more malicious synonyms, and otherwise treated badly by the PSSNTP and those bad experiences unite us in our sub-groups. Yes, some non-white, non-straight, non-neurotypical have also oppressed others. They were never the majority of oppressors, and they were hoping to hide the non-majority aspects of their identity by “going with the flow”. For what it’s worth, Empathy is also a minority identity characteristic among USA straight males, when it reaches the level of choosing discomfort for oneself in order to improve life for others.

Lastly, about "White"ness. As you mentioned, there are no “races” in the human genome except the human race. As far as I know, the term “white” referring to caucasian people was first spread widely during North American (NA) slavery in order to unite poor caucasians (British & other Europeans in debt slavery as “indentured”) in NA with rich caucasians (mostly british aristocratic slave-owners) in order to motivate the poor to report African slaves who had escaped. They also motivated the poor caucasians to side with rich by hiring them as a slave patrol unit, with higher salary etc. This is the origin of the entire concept of Police (for the whole Earth, as far as I know) as an enforcement unit under civilian authorities and separate from military.

• Southern Slave Patrols as a Transitional Police Type | Office of Justice Programs - ojp(dot)gov - https://archive.ph/OSLBv

• The Invention of the Police | The New Yorker - https://archive.ph/CkfpI

Even Police themselves admit it

• National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund - Slave Patrols: An Early Form of American Policing - https://archive.ph/5cXfv

well said!

not teens, arguments (as in wasted effort to textually convince or defeat a faceless web foe) are usually stupid