Admiral Patrick

I’m surprisingly level-headed for being a walking knot of anxiety.

Ask me anything.

I also develop Tesseract UI for Lemmy/Sublinks

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  • I just don’t know a good way to deal with that, TBH. I wish I did.

    how to make them be honest about their motivations

    It’s tough. If I get a funny feeling about an account and think they might be a concern troll (I think that’s the term that applies here; if not, someone please correct me. I think “false ally” is a sub-class of that, but I’m shooting from the hip here),

    I’ll typically look back through their history, try to put things in context, and get a feel from there. The ones I blocked were pretty much all one-trick ponies, so that was easy (though tedious as it took a while “vetting” each one).

    The problem there is, yes, you’ve identified that person. But everyone else needs to do the same legwork and come to the same conclusion. You can’t just put up a sign that says “Troll” lol. Depending on the community/instance, you could report them, but that often puts mods in a sticky situation because they usually don’t want to suppress anyone’s viewpoint as long as it’s not violating any rules.

    or, in the case of those few who are genuinely being taken in by this garbage

    That’s even tougher. First, you have to figure out if they’re the troll or the one who was trolled (troll-ee lol?) . And one, very rightfully, can’t /shouldn’t just start calling people trolls or shills. For one, they might be the troll-ee; going out of the gate with name-calling and accusations is definitely not the way to convince them to re-evaluate their views. For another, it just sets a bad tone and gives the impression that “everyone who disagrees with me is a troll”.

    But sometimes they are. What do you do then?

    Wish I had an answer that didn’t involve writing multiple theses on a number of topics as they try to sealion me into submission lol.


    • Claiming to be leftists
    • Encouraging leftists not to vote or to vote for third party candidates
    • Highlighting issues with the Democratic party as being disqualifying while ignoring the objectively worse positions held by the Republican party
    • Attacking anyone who promotes defending leftist political power by claiming they are centrists and that the attacker is “to the left of them”
    • Using US foreign policy as a moral cudgel to disempower any attempt at legitimate engagement with the US political system
    • Seemingly doing nothing to actually mount resistance against authoritarianism

    Except for the one example you listed that I omitted here, you’ve just described, like, at least 1/3 of Lemmy, maybe more.

    The obvious ones I blocked long ago. There were some I didn’t block, but a good chunk of those up and disappeared right after the election in November, so that was not suspicious at all.

    Frankly, I’m just about done with anything “political” on social media and am just going to start employing keyword filters. I’ll just have to find some other void to shout into when I need an outlet lol.











  • How fucking entitled, and spoiled are you, that you let perfect be the enemy of good? Get out of your privileged bubble, and actually pull the fucking dog sled with everyone, instead of standing off to the side preaching about how you’d do it better.

    👏

    My favorite excuse I’ve heard is “Well, Trump getting elected isn’t my fault. I didn’t vote, which means I didn’t vote for him”.

    If the technology existed for me to punch someone via the internet, I would have used it. And I’m a pretty peaceful guy lol.