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Cake day: June 12th, 2023

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  • from what I remember from my early psych class, manipulation can be used, but should be used carefully in an experiment.

    there’s a lot that goes into designing a research experiment that tests or requires the use of manipulation, as appropriate approvals and ethics reviews are needed.

    and usually it should be done in a “controlled” environment where there’s some manner of consent and compensation.

    I have not read the details done here but the research does not seem to happen in a controlled env, participants had no way to express consent to opt in or opt out, and afaik they were not compensated.

    any psych or social sci peeps, feel free to jump in to correct me if I say something wrong.

    on a side note, another thing that this meme suggests is that both of these situations are somehow equal. IMO, they are not. researchers and academics should be expected to uphold code of ethics more so than corporations.










  • this is an interesting story but for those who prefer to read, here the article linked in the video description:

    https://thefourth.media/apartments/

    I also ran this through smmry to summarize. Below is the result:

    The Apartments With No Entrance A shady land sale has left the residents of Sea Park Apartments locked in a decades-long land dispute, with no control over their own homes.

    These apartments are “Enclosed” in more ways than one: The original developer of the apartments sold the apartment’s carpark and common areas - which surround the apartment blocks - to an individual, leaving residents in the unusual position of having their homes completely encircled by someone else’s private land.

    Built in the 70s and completed in the early 80s, Sea Park Apartments is one of the earliest apartments in Petaling Jaya, if not the earliest, constructed at a time when most residential developments in the area still involved landed properties.

    This meant residents had no way to access their homes without first trespassing on private property, and no control over the common facilities sited on that private land.

    The individual who purchased the disputed lands is Yap Say Tee, who once managed a hotel owned by the developer, and was earlier approached by the developer to manage the car park at Sea Park Apartments.

    With the developer’s sale of these lands to Yap, the rules of the game changed: The developer is no longer the registered owner of the disputed lands nor responsible for addressing the remonstrations of the residents, which reached a peak in 2013.

    With the facilities on private land, access road on private land, the property value will go down, and residents will have no agency.





  • I’m just adding on to this.

    Scale here comes in multiple layers, including the capacity/speed at which these technologies can be deployed, as well as the breadth of domains/fields/applications they touch upon, not to mention the unintended consequences when at scale. It’s not only they are much faster, cheaper, but they come almost all at once and have the potential to affect so many fields. Heck, “GP” means general purpose in GPT. Plus the effects of scale can be extremely unpredictable that we should not underestimate (disinformation campaigns now come much cheaper and easier, trust erodes even further).

    I don’t know much about history so please correct me, but photography “replacing” painting may be quite specific, that painters could probably have adapted or switched to another professions. I think one commenter stated that the transition was “smoother”. In the case of these generative techs, this affects the livelihood of a whole bunch more of people (possibly both in absolute and per-capita number) that will need to grapple with what they’re going to do with their life, and have to do it fast.

    One branch of the arguments I’ve been seeing is about capability comparison, sometimes even anthropomorphizing tech/companies. While I find that interesting and valuable intellectually, I personally think the conversations need to be more about the labor aspects.

    Learning takes time and people need to eat. In the name of progress, society sometimes forgets or brushes over the “casualties” it leaves behind. I think many would benefit from this tech, but let’s hope they have a meal on their table doing so.

    We don’t want a dystopian where they use these techs to generate the illusions of enjoying a feast over a big hotpot, while in reality it’s just a can of tomato soup for a family of 5.