Ah, like orange cats. I can relate, I’m cis but my fursona is orange, and since I’m dating an enby, I can confirm we only have two brain cells between us.

Thing is, we can’t share, so we “fight” “viciously” over who gets them at any given time. We need both braincells to think of flirty and teasy things to say, so whoever lacks braincells that particular night is automatically the bottom.

Sometimes, instead of fighting over the braincells, we yeet them at each other, screaming, “No, its YOUR turn to love ME!!”

We are a very normal couple.

Wouldn’t he serve bone instead? ;3

Slippery slope fallacy. Some tools are inherently wrong to use. Since we’re talking about weapons of war, you could never make this argument about napalm, for instance. The flaws of LLMs are inherent to them and can’t be painted over, no matter how perfect the paint or how well intentioned the painter.

Yeah. I’m shocked to see so much… well, not neoliberalism, but neoliberal arguments under this post. I really thought this would be uncontroversial in a place like this.

I think the idea of a machine that feigns intelligence is the opposite of progressive.

As individuals, the ideas and experiences of others should inform, but not solely dictate, our own views, right? Therefore, someone who spouts nothing but the ideas of others, even if citing each one, is unwilling to think for themself. If that person doesn’t cite their sources, it means they’re unoriginal and a plagiarist.
If we want progress towards a better world, LLMs are the last things we need. A black box that dulls our minds by pretending to be “intelligent” when it could never possibly be so while causing copious damage in every sense of the word doesn’t sound like progress to me. At best, it’s what mainstream social media algorithms do, but on steroids, and while social media itself isn’t evil, those absolutely are.

Maybe calling all LLMs fascistic is an exaggeration, just like equating fascism with capitalism. Two different words exist for a reason, they are different ideologies, but the latter always benefits/leads towards the former, and LLMs share that relationship with fascism.

I was trying not to repeat what I already said in my other big response in this thread, so I just added another, more subjective point. Sorry, OC.

However, while its mostly my own perspective, I think its still based in the same argument: taking inspiration from someone through appreciation of their work is (usually) honouring it. If nothing else, it shows that person’s art impacted another’s. An LLM, though, does nothing more then shamelessly regurgitate bits and pieces of that and other works in an aimless fashion. There is no rhyme or reason or thread of inspiration to retrace.

Theres a reason fascists hate creativity, colourfulness, and differences between people: it goes against everything fascism stands for. LLMs were made with the intent to homogenize and steal from creatives, all while passing off output as at least somewhat original. I wouldn’t call Canada fascist, even though we do many fascistic things, like any country under capitalism. Not being strictly fascist doesn’t make those actions or laws any less so, however, and an LLM made by a non-fascist doesn’t make the concept of am LLM any less fascistic.

I would say yes, yes, and yes. Mainly I’m trying to say that even if the environmental and societal factors were solved, LLMs would still be pretty fundamentally fucked, as I also said in another comment in thus thread.

I thought about this a while ago and while its more subjective and personal, I hope it helps illustrate what I’m getting at. If someone subconsciously, or even intentionally, put a piece of a song or words or whatever that I wrote into their own work, I’d feel downright honoured. I’d appreciate some credit if possible (I already think lack of attribution is an issue among creatives sometimes), but even if not, I’m happy knowing my art had enough of an effect on someone to weasel it’s way into their own! That’s amazing! On the other hand, if a piece of something I made similarly wound up in someone’s own “creation” because of an LLM, I’d feel empty, as it means nothing. Less than nothing, in fact. I’d be really upset by it.

I hope that helps?

I would argue that a machine attempting to feign human intelligence, devaluing actual human intelligence in the process, is fascist. What used to be referred to as AI, like the patterns of enemies in a video game, are still authentic creations. Taking those creations and feeding them to a glorified auto complete guessing machine (with or without the creator’s consent) is an attempt to homogenize humanity itself. God, that sounds overly dramatic, but I can’t think of another way to word it. Apologies.

Basically, even putting all the real world consequences aside, the difference comes down to automating mostly menial tasks vs. handing over your agency to a machine that only supersedes a magic eight ball in it’s ability to perform slight of hand. Even if all the societal and environmental factors could be put to rest at this very moment, it’d still be a fundamentally evil concept, I feel.

My discomfort is immesuarable, and my night is tainted (pun intended)

Yoooo that’s interesting haha

Gotcha I really appreciate the explanation and extra details. I personally stick with Piefed bc I don’t want to use software run by MLs and that is indifferent to LLM usage, but I hope PieFed is either forked or that he comes to his senses in many ways.

I don’t get why someone would make a FOSS project if he wanted it to only serve him, as you describe. It’s straight up counter intuitive.

They don’t care because while they are different, they all eventually lead to the same outcome :3

The last one us really nuts. I don’t think “stupid” is a word getting upset over, but the person who brought it up was being very respectful and his response… Yikes.

The middle one sounds bad but I’ll need to look into it a bit more in order to have a strong opinion. I think its irresponsible to claim all anarchists bad though, even if you generally dislike the ideology.

The first one is what I see all the time and I’m sorry I just don’t get it. The guy lays out the things he doesn’t want to give credence to, which seem reasonable to me, and has places that sympathize with those things, such as authoritarianism, filtered out by default. I don’t think it should be hardcoded now or in the future, but its not like he’s hiding it either. You linked to a page where he explains it for all to see. It doesn’t come across as slight of hand. That’s not to say everything is fine so long as the person doing it says they’re doing it, but I wouldn’t want dictator apologists in my circle either if I could help it.

Just re-read a bit and saw ppl were given generic error messages. Yeah, not cool. I’m really conflicted over all. Idk what this guy’s deal is.

What opinions are baked into PieFed? Most of the things I see people complain about PieFed over are either non-issues or really petty, but maybe that’s because I’ve seen tankies hate on it.

I mean, Lemmy devs are what springs to mind, but yeah, I get ur point.

I think he was an authoritarian. Based on my limited knowlage, I’m aware Marx referred to what would eventually become known as communism via the red scare as “crude” communism. I’m inclined to believe he wasn’t bad.

Its almost like people should be given reasons to do things rather then just being told “nah”

Hihihihiiii!! Its me!! I’m gay cat!! I’ll purr if you cuddle me!! I’m even orange too so you know I have no other responsiblities and I can just stay with you foreverrrrrr~!! UwU

Hang on, Marx isn’t Stalin. Am I missing something?

Haha gotcha. Thank you for the explanation