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In two of three final reports there are bombs worn or placed by the attackers. In two of the reports the final assault was started by government personell (either directly, letting it look like the hostage takers started it, or by killing the guy on a dead man’s switch). In one report it was classified as a suicide attack from the start.

The dead man’s switch was confirmed by one of the surviving attackers. He also was the one speaking of a dispute between the attackers concerning the target building (school vs. police station).

They wore explosive belts. That’s why i supect they intended to blow themself up. Sure, I could be wrong. But then you got to find better sources.

Why are you getting cynical now?

I asked where it states that Putin bombed the school. Your own source contradicts your comment. So please explain.

Where in that article does it say it was bombed deliberately? And by Putin?

The first explosions were the bombs placed by the attackers themselves. The fighting afterwards was as expected.

America does WHAT now?

No, i don’t need sources on that. I’d like to hear claims on what happened in and around the square… Why it’s called a massacre? How many were killed? On which side were those killed? Were the ‘sides’ as clear cut as we are told? Why were there protests and why did it escalate?

What happened exactly at Tiananmen Square? You have some good sources?

E: Yeah, i get it. “Look it up! Everyone knows!” I did, and I’d like some sources on the claims everyone thinks that happened. Most media outlets call it massacre but forget to put numbers, reasons and sources in the articles. What do YOU think what happened? What did YOU hear/read? What was the reason for the protest and what was the reason for the escalation?

Kurds deserve their own state as much as plaestinians do. But colonial nations back in the past fucked up.

Hey, that’s a legitimate word… for particle physics.

Yeah, it’s pronounced [‘krapfə’]. Written something like Krapfo.

In this case it’s Austria not tolerating those fascists.

There is an ‘adequately’ missing. It somewhat counters the excuse of malice.

If you can’t adequately attribute it to stupidity it has to be malice (or at least negligence).

It’s at the bottom, slightly outside of the frame. If you continue the vertical lines that would be parallel you intersect there (e.g. the slim building in the front). The same way you can reach the points on either side.

And neither of current israelis, so why are they granted a Israel and the others no Palestine?

Fist time I read that passage (Mark 11:12):

12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs. 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it.

That last phrase though, as if the writer wants to tell us: “Look here, jesus is an asshole!”

I am not your enemy, I’m taking part in a discussion. Also this is my first post in this thread, stop talking like I personally offended you.

I explicitly wrote about the state of Israel and not the Jewish people. So the timeframe of my argument the founding of Israel and the decades after that. Jewish europeans settled there since the end of the 19th century, and for almost half a century it worked. The phrase started being used after that.

The Likud Party hat that phrase in it’s founding charter: “between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty.”

Yes, it was used earlier by the PLO but back then the meaning was more like “take back what was ours”. It was not against the jews, they were there before the founding of Israel. It was against the forced taking of land by creating the state of Israel.

Extremist forces took it further, especially Hamas. But by then the sitation was already complicated enough for an easy solution…

Maybe if israeli hardliners didn’t support the founding of Hamas and assassinate Rabin they could have reached a peaceful solution almost 20 years ago?

You mean exploiting, right? :)