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No, my original reply was directed at hoppeduponcoffee

Alright, that’s fair. The Jews were a scapegoat for the economy in lots of places at the time though, so it was an easy target to get the masses riled up I suppose.

Also, while Mein Kampf described many races as inferior, the actual mechanics of what would be the Holocaust and the decisions that resulted in the Final Solution were largely shaped over time through small decisions that fed on each other by multiple individuals.

Put differently, Hitler never ordered the Holocaust directly or personally. Yes, he talked a lot about the end if the Jewish race, but to pretend he was solely responsible for coming up with this policy lets the other architects of the Holocaust off the hook way too lightly.

None of that excuses him and his regime overseeing and directing these atrocities though. I think we can all agree that this was a uniquely evil policy for which there is no punishment big or fitting enough (even the Nuremberg trials struggled to (and acknowledged) mete out judgement that was in any way proportional to the suffering the defendants had caused).

That’s fair, and corroborates my initial point. Saying Bin Laden had legitimate beef whereas Hitler did not is reductionist at best. Just like the French being super punitive in the treaty of Versailles, the German people had legitimate grievances that were insufficiently addressed by their political leadership, resulting in the king of climate that enabled a despotic genocidal maniac to take power. That doesn’t happen in a vacuum.

I’m not disagreeing with anything you said, nor defending Nazi Germany. I’m just pointing out that saying something along the lines of “the difference between Bin Laden and Hitler is that he had legitimate beef whereas Hitler did not” is at the very least reductive.

People don’t follow a reactionary populist for no reason. Without legitimate grievances in German society, Nazi Germany would not have happened. Simple as.

I don’t buy into the great man myth of some people being such legitimate influencers of history that their deeds would’ve existed despite circumstances.

In contrary: It’s the circumstances that allow certain people to influence large enough parts of society to enact their plan/will, but it never happens by happenstance nor in isolation, nor without the help of lots of other people/enabelers.

Hitler arguably had legitimate beef as well with at least France and the UK. The treaty of Versailles was very lopsided and placed both the blame and reparations for WW1 largely on Germany.

It’s not unreasonable to state that clause 231 almost directly lead to the economic situation and resentment that fueled the German people to reject their political system in favour of radical change (yes, I know Hitler never actually won a fair election, but he did enjoy growing support throughout his ascension to the Reichstag).

For what it’s worth, IKEA is no longer on the list: https://bdsmovement.net/tags/ikea

Holy shit, he looks 3 minutes away from death in that picture. I admit I haven’t seen the most recent pictures of him, but I don’t recall him looking this haggard.

Huh, TIL I guess. Still, of it doesn’t move it’s a single one time purchase of some alcohol. Still feels like a hollow “victory” to me.

This might actually be a genius malicious compliance play, seeing how the boycotts of American made goods and alcohol are largely a grassroots movement by the citizens.

Appeasing the US by allowing their alcohol back on the shelves, only for it to largely sit there as unmoving product would definitely be a great way to honour the contract without reducing the impact of the message.

Yeah, that’s petty much what every credible economist said would happen after reading the Trump campaign’s economic plans last election.

Truly shocking stuff to see experts in their field being right about something.

The irony would be glorious, for sure

This feels like the monkey’s paw-level curse. I hate it.

I wouldn’t be surprised if that becomes a thing. Black mirror here we go!

Is that polycule situation actually canon or just meme material?

Unrelated to the topic at hand, but man, have his politics ruined this show for me harder than the terrible acting.

Didn’t some states experiment with gas chambers for executions already? It’s not unlikely they already exist in use in some official capacity today.

Starlink recently bought up lots of billboard space here in rural BC advertising how “Fast, affordable internet has arrived in Canada” and I’m this close to defacing those signs by crossing out “Fast, affordable” and writing “Nazi sympathiser” instead.

Not a day goes by that ICE isn’t making me draw mental comparisons to the Nazi SA (brown shirts). All of these scumbags deserve to be prosecuted once the regime falls.

“A country is a language or dialect with borders and an army” - As long as the US continues to meet those definitions they continue to be a country. Democracy however will likely die in the US though.