WideningGyro [any]

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Cake day: May 28th, 2022

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  • Completely dogmatic way of thinking. I should remind you that you just said “Cuba and Vietnam are not engaged in combat with Nazis and imperialists currently.” to the suggestion that materially supporting those socialist countries would be more than/equally as productive materially supporting Russia. So which is it? Are there alternatives, or is “die for a country marginally less fascist than the country they’re fighting because Lenin said so”?

    I support DPRK, again critically, that doesn’t mean I think it’s a good idea for young DPRK men to die in this conflict. There are again, thousands of better ways to support socialism than to throw your life away shoulder to shoulder with reactionaries. That’s my two cents. Probably going to stop responding to you once you call me a chauvinist again.


  • Russia being the aggressor who wants to take all the territory

    Fucking quote me on that. Why are you putting words in people’s mouth and ascribing them intentions you know nothing about?

    I said “territorial ambitions”, and Russia is completely transparent about having designs on Crimea, and parts of east Ukraine. That it is part of a fight against NATO encroachment doesn’t suddenly change the fucking material facts of what the war is. If you go fight for Russia, you’re going to risk your life in a trench to take or hold some tiny village or hill. That’s a fact. That’s a completely coherent position to take without having to “fall back on the western narrative”.

    I am, as are just about everyone else I have ever talked to on this site, happy to call Russia’s fight a fight against NATO and imperialism. It’s your insane leap from that fact to “it’s your duty as a communist to die for Russia” that everyone is reacting against.

    I find the fact that you find dying in a ditch for Russia, a country that at most deserves critical support, for the reasons many others have stated here (capitalist society, persecution of minorities etc.) somehow more important or pressing than joining the fight against fascism by moving to and helping build a nation with actual, existing socialism to be an absurd set of priorities.






  • A few years ago, a Hungarian friend was educating me on the incredible corruption of the Orban regime. IIRC, he showed me a photo of the Hungarian equivalent of a supreme court justice shaking Orbans hand and apologizing - apologizing for having sentenced Fidesz (Orban’s party) to a totally symbolic fine for breaking some rules about campaign ads or something.

    This seems a lot like that. Yet the same libs who would talk about how awful the Hungarian system is will surely keep telling me that the US is, despite its flaws, a beacon of democracy.












  • Agreed. I’m often met with the reply of “well, it’s much better here (Scandinavia) than most other places!” whenever I criticize our country, and it just makes me sad. Like, if I say “our country is part of an extremely destructive and often downright evil western imperialist bloc, selfishly sucking resources out of the global south while actively destabilizing it.”, then “but look how much material wealth we have!” isn’t a rebuttal - it’s just highlighting the problem.

    Sure, it feels privileged to complain about living in one of the safest and richest countries in the world, if you ignore the context of those privileges. Any moral person’s food should turn to ashes in their mouth if they know their neighbor is starving, and likewise I don’t feel happy to live in one of the small, pampered kingdoms in the imperial core - it makes me miserable because its very existence reflects everything wrong with the system. Same applies when people here self-congratulate about our low crime (crime has been outsourced), low corruption (because corruption is mostly a legal part of our political system), social safety net (which is actively dismantled by the same people who praise it) etc. To the extent that we really have these privileges, how did we come to have them? Who suffers so that we can? It makes me go insane how little my countrymen think about this, and how many will frown at you for refusing to join in the self-congratulatory circle-jerk.


  • It’s good to bring him up when talking to liberals about the necessity of violence to achieve liberation (something they’ll vehemently deny). Usually, they respond by going “well Nelson Mandela was peaceful, unlike [insert unacceptable resistance movement]!”. After which you can point to all the bombings and acts of “terrorism” that uMkhonto weSizwe engaged in. That can then lead to a productive convo about how those aren’t actually blemishes on an otherwise peaceful and democratic struggle for freedom, but is itself part of the struggle for freedom (and, of course, based af).