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  • I’ll be interested to see what happens with this.

    New forms of industry will work out if you got very low capital costs and high energy costs. The factory is going to be running, what? At most 25% of the year? Probably more like under 10 and unpredictable. That’s going to be so weird for profitability.

    I feel like storing the hydrogen itself could be an issue. Storing methane seems way easier so I wonder if that happens instead. But is it cheap to make a device that can make huge amount of hydrogen or methane? I have no idea and no one seems to know what’s going to happen yet.

    I just expect most of it to be dumped. Because it’s 1 less thing to buy.


  • Neat, a point by point breakdown. Love those. In no way are they fingernails to the blackboard of internet discussion

    Well unfortunately your mental capacity seems to make it a necessity.

    That’s what the whole comment is about. “Why” is the entire thesis of the comment. It is the comments entire raison d’être. In summary: the inefficiencies inherent to distributed implementation, the lack of service infrastructure, the short lifespans of the high-density battery chemistries needed in residential installs, etc.

    The question is about why you think solar is good for home but not batteries. That hasn’t been explained. You used grid issues as a reasoning and inefficiencies. Which is exactly the same as as solar and that was the whole reason for the question in the first place. I’m sorry you’re not getting that, I made the fatal assumption you had some intelligence behind you but I’m being proved wrong. You can’t even understand simple conversations. The only actual point you made is wear on batteries but that only matters for a financial and environmental factors but your point falls flat on it’s face with both. I guess you did also say batteries are better on the grid than at home but that was accepted before the conversation started and the same with solar (at least for me and hence the conversation). The financial business reasonings is just mind blowing, businesses and consumers like to make money and they both do. Financially, batteries aren’t some Elon conspiracy theory, that’s just business. That seems too much for you. But solar has the same ideas about paybacks so I do struggle to see how you think one works and the other doesn’t. Ah well I guess an answer to that isn’t coming.

    I don’t really care, though. It’s got nothing to do with the points I was making, which is why I didn’t address it. It’s largely irrelevant.

    Its not though because you think a businessman isn’t doing businessman things. That’s how its directly relevant to what you said.

    internalise [sic]

    Hahahaha this is the icing on the cake. Your arrogance matches your stupidity. Look if you’re going to try correct someone at least spend 10 seconds on google, but obviously that’s too much for you. That’s how that’s words spelt. Hahaha that says it all about your conversation doesn’t it? That should be the end of it, but at least I’ll finish this comment off.

    Okay, no. This is not how residential demand or load balancing or power infrastructure works. There’s components you’re assuming exist that would have to run on magic to be safe (some kind of automatic interlock cut-in), and even those would absolutely devastate the grid by constantly adding and removing whole residential loads at random.

    I don’t know what to say. When solar is used in the house it doesn’t go down the lines. There is less demand on the wires that’s just fact.

    I’m sorry. I known you want to come across like you know stuff but I just started by asking you about a simple point and you’ve come across really badly both in terms of intelligence and in delivery. Good luck with both in the future.


  • though the generator is going to be far more eco friendly than the batteries over their respective lifetimes

    That’s just not true.

    vastly inferior solution to the implementation of even local grid scale solutions.

    Same as solar. But you seem to be pro rooftop solar but not home grids and no explanation why.

    Also because there is essentially 0 infrastructure designed to handle said batteries,

    Makes no sense because the struggles the grid currently has with solar will be offset. Home batteries reduces demand on the grid and internalise production and demand more into the house.

    they wear out quite quickly at home scales (unless you’re using uncommon chemistries, but if you’re using iron-nickle batteries you’re not the target audience here)

    In a cost exercise if the batteries last longer than the payback period they are worth it. Which is the case so that point is meaningless.

    and because Elon popularized them with his “powerwall” bullshit entirely to pump the stock value of Tesla’s battery plant (which is it’s own spectacular saga I encourage you to look up, it’s a real trip).

    I don’t under a CEO pushes a good product that helps the grid and helps consumers make money. Your bias against Elon is just limiting your world view.

    Batteries in the walls are useful in niches, but the current technology which uses lipo/lion/lifepo4 chemistries is inherently flawed and a route to both dead linemen and massive amounts of E-waste.

    Chemistry has nothing to do with electrons on the wires so that doesn’t make sense. Lithium ion batteries are recyclable. Yes batteries are Bette Ron the grid but getting them connected is hard. Same solar, waste on roofs but thats how it goes. The arguments are the same.

    They could be useful potentially, but as it stands, it’s really bad right now.

    They are useful. They aren’t bad.



  • You need to look up how much grid storage lithium batteries are being built. It’s exponential growth. Faster than solar.

    The reason it’s worthwhile is because solar makes energy with 0 or near 0 price to the owner in certain places, if they store that and use it for later they save money. There are cost calculators out there and for certain markets they make sense.

    Of course Tesla pushes it they got a product people want and it makes the consumer and Tesla money. Win win. That’s business, nothing shady about that.

    Yes batteries are better on the grid but that’s for exactly the same reasons why solar is better on the grid.



  • Just to be clear this can’t be solved with storage. Currently it can be but not permanently.

    For ease of argument let’s say the grid runs 100% on solar with batteries that last a day. For 100% solar you need to build power for when demand is highest, winter, and supply is lowest also winter. Come summer demand is lowest and supply is highest. You can’t store all that energy in summer because you got fuck all to do with it.

    It’s a really weird cost saving exercise but basically when supply is massively abundant it has to be wasted. No one is going to build that final battery that is only used for 1 day every 10 years.

    Bringing it all together. In a 100% renewables grid with solar, wind, hydro and batteries a lot of electricity will be wasted and it will be the cheapest way to do it. Cheaper than now.

    Quite a few people talk about this on youtube. Tony Seba and rethinkx is the best place to start in my opinion.







  • Fuck the Tankies fuck communism entirely, I just got back from Cambodia, got an economics degree and like capitalism, China’s a bunch of dickheads.

    BYD is going to change the world.

    It’s the classic incumbents move slow into new tech. Added with government investment, low labour costs, access to raw materials/adjacent industries, hungry growth focused companies, semi crazy workforce.

    I haven’t drove a BYD or even a electric car for that matter but reading the stats things are going to move fast and the rate they move is going to increase. I can see all the west companies largely losing their overseas market, other than luxury, inside cities. The world’s moved on and people don’t realise.


  • My view is it’s pure hypeware until proven otherwise.

    This isn’t Tesla hate from my side either. The general consensus from enthusiasts since the beginning is Tesla is way off the mark. But the latest self driving upgrades using more LLM tech has apparently been a big step up. By that I mean going from poor assisted self driving to good assisted self driving. Getting it from there to no driver behind the wheel is another matter all together. Maybe they had a single jump or maybe it’s a new path of consistent progress, I have no idea.

    I’m not expecting much from Tesla. I would absolutely love to be wrong.

    Expecting more from baidu, pony.ai and zoox more than Tesla. Hell even BYD with the Chinese backing it has might beat Tesla.







  • In a way.

    But there was a lot of lies that represented legitimate concerns and remain didn’t really do a good enough job of bringing leave along with them. Pleanty of “we got lied too, no on told us”. No no no no. Remain clearly said the truth and you listened to the lies.

    Also fish was fucking weird. Seems like people will die over fish.

    But people were told immigration would go down. People have been wanting immigration to go down for 60 years and it’s never happened. First direct vote about immigration going down is obviously going to be a big factor. Didn’t happen though so far right will win soon.


  • Probably going to get slated for this but surely at some point we need to accept our being all nice and friendly all the time just doesn’t work.

    Like if kids are this bad send them off to military school for a month till they shape up. Happens again 6 months, then 12. Government mandated, parents don’t like it, they can look after their kids better.

    People are absolute shits and don’t give a fuck about others or their future. No amount of “please pay attention or you won’t understand algebra and won’t get a good job” will do anything, you will just get “Why do i need to learn algebra! I’ll never use that. John just told me to shut up, what am I meant to do? Just let him disrespect me like that. You should be talking to John!”

    Fuck them. Make them do press ups in the rain see if they learn to shut up then.