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  • You’re not wrong. There’s nothing that requires the two parties be Dems and GOP. But you’re not going to overturn one or the other in a single election, and that means losing to the farthest big party from you, likely a few in a row, while that gets resolved. Especially if you try to do it top down instead of building support from local/county offices up.

    Basically, if you could get enough third party support, you could either supplant one of the existing parties or force them to shift to stay competitive. The argument is that trying to do so with the office of president when doing so promotes a fast track to outright fascism is a painfully bad tactic.


  • Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.orgtoMemes@lemmy.mlSchrödinger’s China
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    10 days ago

    What exactly does “should” mean in this context?

    I think the implication is that it’s essentially being prevented from collapse because it’s so ingrained in international trade that if it were to collapse it would hurt you and your allies too much, so you don’t allow it to collapse when it otherwise might.




  • I think white does most of the heavy lifting there, at least in western democracies (for example being white is not a benefit in say Japan). Straight carries a bunch of the rest (and would carry more, but you can’t tell someone’s sexuality just by looking at them), and then you get down to men.

    To put it another way: If I asked to to provide statistical evidence that the criminal justice system is biased against black people, you could name off a bunch of stats that you would argue present compelling evidence. If I took the same data from the same sources and broke it down by sex instead of race, it would present a similar picture of men and you’d argue that same data is suddenly meaningless because it disagrees with your model. I’d argue that the idea that society has a sex hierarchy as such is the wrong model to use entirely.

    Instead, when it comes to sex it’s all about perceived agency - men are perceived to have more agency than they do and women are perceived to have less. Essentially men are seen as more “responsible” for what happens to them/what they do and women are seen as less “responsible” for what happens to them/what they do. And this cuts both ways. If a man hits a woman, even in self defense it’s his “fault” and she’s just a victim. If a woman hits a man, even in an unprovoked attack people will start by asking what he did to deserve it. Men get worse bail, higher chance of conviction, loner sentences, etc in criminal justice because they are more “responsible” for their wrongdoing than women. At the other end, men are also treated as more “responsible” for their accomplishments, in general. Which helps men reach the very top positions at a higher rate than women. If a male teacher commits statutory rape of a female student, she’s definitely a victim and it won’t be called anything but rape but if a female teacher commits statutory rape of a male student the media will often describe it as an “affair” or “romp” or similar and focus on how complicit he was with the activity. Etc, etc.







  • To be clear, when you say “seeded from” you mean an image that was analyzed as part of building the image classifying statistical model that is then essentially running reverse to produce images, yes?

    And you are arguing that every image analyzed to calculate the weights on that model is in a meaningful way contained in every image it generated?

    I’m trying to nail down exactly what you mean when you say “seeded by.”


  • OK, so this is just the general anti-AI image generation argument where you believe any image generated is in some meaningful way a copy of every image analyzed to produce the statistical model that eventually generated it?

    I’m surprised you’re going the CSAM route with this and not just arguing that any AI generated sexually explicit image of a woman is nonconsensual porn of literally every woman who has ever posted a photo on social media.


  • When I previously wrote that if you get deep enough into it they don’t believe in gravity, I meant that. No gravity, what you and I call gravity is a consequence of everything accelerating upwards at 9.8 m/s^2 causing a downward force exerted on everything. The sun and moon are also accelerating at the same speed (the entire firmament and its contents are). I have no idea about the other planets, but it’s probably something equally dumb.


  • was seeded with the face of a 15yr old and that they really are 15 for all intents and purposes.

    That’s…not how AI image generation works? AI image generation isn’t just building a collage from random images in a database - the model doesn’t have a database of images within it at all - it just has a bunch of statistical weightings and net configuration that are essentially a statistical model for classifying images, being told to produce whatever inputs maximize an output resembling the prompt, starting from a seed. It’s not “seeded with an image of a 15 year old”, it’s seeded with white noise and basically asked to show how that white noise looks like (in this case) “woman porn miniskirt”, then repeat a few times until the resulting image is stable.

    Unless you’re arguing that somewhere in the millions of images tagged “woman” being analyzed to build that statistical model is probably at least one person under 18, and that any image of “woman” generated by such a model is necessarily underage because the weightings were impacted however slightly by that image or images, in which case you could also argue that all drawn images of humans are underage because whoever drew it has probably seen a child at some point and therefore everything they draw is tainted by having been exposed to children ever.



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    23 days ago

    A more apt comparison would be people who go out of their way to hurt animals.

    Is it? That person is going out of their way to do actual violence. It feels like arguing someone watching a slasher movie is more likely to make them go commit murder is a much closer analogy to someone watching a cartoon of a child engaged in sexual activity or w/e being more likely to make them molest a real kid.

    We could make it a video game about molesting kids and Postal or Hatred as our points of comparison if it would help. I’m sure someone somewhere has made such a game, and I’m absolutely sure you’d consider COD for “fun and escapism” and someone playing that sort of game is doing so “in bad faith” despite both playing a simulation of something that is definitely illegal and the core of the argument being that one causes the person to want to the illegal thing more and the other does not.


  • I used to work with one. The notion is that the sun travels in essentially a circle above the earth-disk and is also much smaller and much closer than you’ve been led to believe. They believe that the world actually is exactly as it looks in an azimuthal equidistant projection centered on the North Pole, and that it being what the world really looks like is why that’s the map on the UN logo. Antarctica is essentially the rim of the world and what keeps the ocean from pouring over the edge of the disk, like the rim of a giant bowl.

    You dig deep enough and you learn that they also don’t believe in gravity (because if gravity was real then it would tend to pull people nearer the edge of the disk at a deeper slant relative to the surface). It’s just that the Earth-disk is accelerating upwards through the void at 9.8 m/s^2.