Yes, the lie that Biden was pushing for a ceasefire gave him tons of political cover. It was one of his administration’s primary Gaza talking points. They used this lie to deflect against valid criticism for months.
Even AOC fell for the lie, saying Harris was working tirelessly for a ceasefire in Gaza
No, Gaza is still being bombed. Children are being intentionally starved. It’s still a crisis.
Probably discussing the latest news about how Biden never pressured Israel for ceasefire
It was just another lie to give political cover as he aided and abetted an ongoing genocide.
because they support the existence of Israel they have blood on their hands?
Yes.
If “Zionist” means anything at all, it means support for Israel as it currently exists. This means support for Jewish supremacy, support for bombing campaigns against civilians in multiple nations, and support for a literal ongoing genocide. Anyone who lends support to these evils has blood on their hands.
You can try to move goalposts to say Zionist only means “israel has a right to exist”, but this is meaningless in context. I personally believe in a one-state solution where Palestinians have equal rights with Jews; a state where there is no apartheid, ethnic cleansing, nor aggression against neighboring countries. I would be fine with this hypothetical country keeping the name “Israel”. Does this make me a Zionist too? If so, the term is meaningless.
I never mentioned their faith, why are you deciding what it is?
You are right about this, I should have been more clear with my words. I was describing a hypothetical Christian Zionist, not your specific neighbor who might be Jewish, Muslim, or atheist. Whatever their faith may be, I condemn their Zionism.
The genocide would not be possible if it wasn’t for the financial and rhetorical support of Christian Zionists like your neighbor. They may not directly murder anyone, but they do have blood on their hands.
Christian Zionists vastly outnumber Jewish individuals on this planet, and correspondingly, the majority of donations to pro-genocide groups like AIPAC come from Christian Zionists.
People like your neighbor are directly funding the genocide. Why wouldn’t they be culpable?
It’s not wasted at all, this is textbook Shock Doctrine (Naomi Klein, 2007). This is Steve Bannons’s “flood the zone” strategy that Trump is currently following.
The lies will be believed by dedicated Zionists. Paid Hasbara trolls will be repeating these lies forever.
For most news consumers, the story will come across muddled, confused, and open to personal interpretation. From their low-information perspective, a conclusion of “both sides” seems reasonable.
And for those who are paying attention and have a strong sense of morality, this will be one more battle we will have to repeatedly fight. We will have to expend time and energy to fight this lie, and it is just one of many.
I went through a medical bankruptcy at age 24, and I have never financially recovered. I have been bedridden twice in my life, and one of those times was due to gross medical negligence. So you’re right, I am desperate for a fleeting sense of power, and one of my goals is to radicalize people against the evil system we suffer under.
Luigi Mangioni is a hero. Instilling fear into the billionaire class is a positive and noble thing, otherwise their power is completely unchecked.
And if you can’t handle pushback, then I suggest you go find a comfy echo chamber, because this ain’t it.
And if you go anywhere outside of the Fediverse, pro-Mangioni voices are removed and banned.
Corporate censorship on other platforms has made the Fediverse into an outlier on this subject, and then sadly people like you capitulate to the narrative that Mangioni is unpopular in those censored spaces.
It kinda seems like immigrants and anti-war protesters made it to the top of the list this time.
corner a pedo
And since these are internet vigilante kids with no oversight, they will inevitably corner some non-pedos too.
Put yourself in that situation- a couple teenagers with cameras approach you on the street and start accusing you of some of the sickest crimes imaginable. Even though the accusation is false, this has the potential to ruin your career, your relationships, your entire life.
I’m not sure how anyone would respond, or should respond, but I can definitely see how people might resort to violence when falsely accused of this horrible shit on camera.
Alright I watched your video. I agree it is a problem that a small subsect of secular humanism has been entangled with “anti-wokeness”, Trumpism, and fascism. Many of the figureheads of the atheist movement in the past two decades have become part of the alt-right pipeline, and that is a tragedy.
But as your video readily admits, the vast majority of atheists, anti-theists, and secular humanists are on the left. I was involved with the Freedom from Religion Foundation for a decade or so, and my personal experience was that nearly everyone there was on the left(even in a heavily rightwing state).
I think you are falling into the pitfall, judging a large and diverse group for the misdeeds of a small subsect of that group.
As for “not thinking of religious people as people”, if you would personally know me you would understand this is a laughable notion. I am surrounded by religion and religious people everyday, their views and beliefs are thrust upon me often, and I always respond with respect, very rarely will I offer a counter argument.
But I am still of the conviction that religious people are victim to religion. I believe my cousins, who do not allow their children to see any doctor, are victims of religion. I think any rational person would agree that their young child, recently ill for a month but not allowed to see a doctor, is a victim of religion.
And as for marginalization, I do believe religion should be marginalized. Just like I believe the alt-right and fascist movements should be marginalized. Good things are good, and bad things are bad, and I am convinced religion is bad. But let’s be honest, the power dynamics are heavily weighted on the other side. Religious people are marginalizing atheists, fascists are marginalizing leftists.
As for “intellectually engaging with their position”, I would love to. My experience has been that very few religious people are willing to intellectually engage in the subject. Despite this, I have had many intellectual and respectful discussions on religion, and I appreciate that you are giving me one more.
But if you are so concerned about anti-theism leading to Trumpism, then you should be much more concerned about religion leading people to Trumpism. That correlation is much stronger.
I think my post makes it quite clear that I was not referring to people as diseases, I specifically said that religion is the disease. The people are victims to the disease.
And if it isn’t also obvious, I do consider myself an anti-theist. The overall effect of religion on society is negative, and we would be better off without religion. I don’t see what this has to do with “woke mind virus” nonsense.
Those many “private, personal” benign religious people form a strong foundation upon which the crazies, cults, and conmen build their structures.
In my experience, these benign people are one tragedy away from metastasizing into the malignant religious type.
I have cousins who were benign-religious for most of their life, but after a death in the family they started following a new sect of christianity. Their children have never seen a doctor, nor a vaccine.
I agree people are entitled to their personal freedoms, but we would be much better off as a society if we could educate our way out of the cancer that is religion.
Anyone who seriously looks at history would agree that yes, every wartime military has a war crimes problem. No exceptions.
But anyone who seriously looks at history must also admit that American veterans have committed the vast majority of war crimes since the end of WWII. We have invaded over 70 countries and killed millions of innocents. No other country even comes close.
Americans see protest as pointless right now.
Americans have seen a generation of peaceful protests that were crushed and villified. Anti-WTO, Anti-Iraq War, Occupy Wall Street, George Floyd, etc; all failed to achieve any of their stated goals.
And now that the fascists have taken control, peaceful protest is even less effective. For peaceful protest to succeed your opponent must have empathy, and fascists have none.
The last protest movement that accomplished something substantial was the civil rights movement. It was not peaceful, it was militant. I think we need a modern Black Panther Party.
Launching a $2 million dollar missile and crushing a few children to death should also be sensational.
Unfortunately here in America that’s just another Saturday.
Have you actually tried to do this?
Personally, I’ve tried to reform the democratic party from the inside for the last 20 years, and I’ve given up, I think it’s a foolheardy endeavor.
Corporate interests are thoroughly entrenched in the party at every level. The democratic party has set up so many structural hurdles that make it nearly impossible for a progressive challenger to have a shot.
Take a small example: when I was volunteering for two different local progressive challengers, they both had extreme difficulty doing basic campaign things like printing flyers, road signs, pamphlets etc. Why? Because the Democratic Party has a explicit policy of blacklisting any vendor who aids a progressive challenger. No print shop would print our flyers.
There are so many structural hurdles like this set up by the Democratic Party, I would encourage you to volunteer and find out how bad it is for yourself.
And how do you propose we wrest control of the Democratic Party from its corporate overlords and put the power in the hands of the working class?
Seems about as farfetched as a new party imo, but I’d love to hear a realistic plan.
I’m not sure the best place to post this, but I would like to say I do regret this comment.
My honest intention was to make a provocative post that would generate a discussion on ethics and morality in the age of Luigi and Elon. My intention was to lay out a hypothetical scenario “if anyone wants to become a hero…” but with sober hindsight I now see how my words could be misconstrued into a call for violence, and that is deeply regrettable.
I was recently prescribed a new muscle relaxant for my rheumatoid arthritis, and I mixed it with a couple alcoholic drinks for the first time. The result was not some drastic change, but I did become unfiltered, sloppy, and inaccurate with my words, and I will not be making this mistake again.
In the future, I do intend to continue making provocative comments, but I am committing myself to no longer discussing violence in this context.
Yes, the current president is supporting genocide.
You don’t hear anyone on the left yelling about it? Maybe you should pay attention, protest movements are ongoing. Protest tactics and media coverage may change in the Trump era, but the anti-genocide movement is still strong in my opinion.
If you want to make some sort of political point then you should come out and say it. Hiding behind sarcasm is off putting when discussing a serious subject like genocide. Its almost like you don’t actually care.