I just love that the Western liberal media bends over backwards pretending this is completely normal, and Ukraine is not a proxy but an equal.

The whole pretense was that the West is supplying Ukraine because of morality. Now that’s out of the window.

Meanwhile Russia is still winning on the battleground.

This report from PBS is what I’ve seen linked, and this one from Radio Free Europe ( )

In the PBS one they say that Russians gave medical treatment to “civilians who didn’t pose a threat”. But why would military age civilian men pose a threat to the Russian Army? Maybe because:

As Russian forces advance on Kyiv, Ukraine’s capital, people all over the country are being urged by officials — and sometimes compelled by necessity — to fight back in whatever ways they can. The country’s former president is patrolling the city streets with a civilian defense force, armed with an AK-47. Civilians have been called to find their own weapons and make molotov cocktails — a type of crude, homemade explosive named, mockingly, after a former Soviet foreign minister.

Roughly 18,000 weapons have already been distributed in the Kyiv region, according to the government. At the country’s borders, Ukrainian guards have been stopping vehicles, looking for men between the ages of 18 and 60 who can help in the fight.

Not that you can excuse war crimes, but in the past couple of weeks Bucha is in the news cycle again and shitlibs are literally saying that “denying the Bucha massacre is the same as denying the Holocaust”, which pretty weird considering literal Banderists are fighting for Ukraine, and Bandera is being rehabilitated…

What’s also weird is if the Bucha massacre is the modus operandi of the Russian Army then there should be dozens of Buchas, while most civilian deaths in the war are from artillery and bombing

Is there anything definitive about the Bucha massacre?

Obviously I am very sceptical about atrocity propaganda from the West, but it’s not like Russian soldiers are above killing civilians… (still, the war in Ukraine seems like a different kind of war than Gaza which is purely oppressive ethnic cleansing)

I remember couple months after the news came out Seth Harp said that all the Western journalists reporting on the Bucha massacre got a curated picture of it (as in it was not some kind of investigative journalism that uncovered it, but the Ukrainian National News Agency put them on the bus like a group of tourists and led them to the [purported] scene of the massacre and Azov corralled them around the village.)

There was also this:

and this one:

according to South Korea’s National Intelligence Service (Nis)

The right call was to be extremely sceptical

Why didn’t the EU diplomats just convince Putin he’s wrong about the world after his Munich speech?

Oh he’s an evil madman with thousands of nukes you can’t reason with? I guess we should escalate the war then

Peak liberal logic

People committing genocides devise moral frameworks to justify them.

western media uses short clips from the Russian alexjoneses like Dugin as proof for genocidal Russian imperial expansionism

The West always needs atrocity propaganda to drum up war fervor

VOLODYMYR STOP

“One of the scenarios is… to give up territory. It’s not fair. But for the peace, temporary peace, maybe it can be a solution, temporary,”

VLADIMIR STOP

I’m convinced they go right cause those are the people that vote

You do realise that it’s a big part of a politician’s job to mobilise the masses to vote?

What do you mean my plan?
The topic is:

“Is there such a thing as the ratchet effect?”

Yes, there is.

I’m not American, I just hate both the US power elite and the bootlickers making excuses for them. Fuck them all, because they make the world worse for the rest of us…
I could go on and on about EU neoliberals as well, but that’s not the topic at hand, and they are basically behave like vassals to the US anyway

Soooo Dems won’t make it better but least won’t make it worse.

So seems like disenfranchisement

So the Dems did make it worse by being terrible at running the country during the 20 years they’ve been in power over the past 30 years?

They fucked up strategically: creating the material conditions for the rise of Fascism
and they fucked up tactically by running two terrible candidates who abetted genocide in Gaza, and couldn’t even be bothered to promise a feeble social democratic programme (which would be less than the bare minimum), and because of this tactical mistake they’ve lost to fucking Trump who is very clearly an idiot.

Calling it a fuckup implies that Democrats actually care about winning elections and developing the country, which is debatable after all these fuckups and all their anti-left rhetoric…

But they did make it worse, their policies led directly to where the US is now.

It’s so fucking ridiculous!

In the past 30 years Dems were in power 2/3 of the time, so they very obviously did contribute to the state of affairs that led to Trump being elected twice!

Or if the country moved rightward regardless of what team the President represents, then it means voting in this system is only ceremonial and completely useless activity.

Either Dems are enablers of Fascists or voting is useless, there’s no third option.

That is not the situation today, where most Americans have NO retirement savings. Unless you’re redefining what capitalism IS, then that’s a problem caused by the people in charge (oligarchs).

Bananas were cheap too… because Western [capitalist!!!] imperialism supported fascist death squads in Latin America who sold out their country to United Fruit [a capitalist corporation]. It’s a whole system of oppression, not just the WASPs you see on Mad Men reruns.

You are the one who is deeply confused.

Capitalism is the private ownership of the means of production. Thinking there was no oligarchy when C. Wright Mills was writing The Power Elite shows that you are not only confused about economic theory, but misinformed about the history of the US as well.

I don’t have the bandwidth for a non ‘fuck off’ reply

You don’t have to debate shitlibs on the internet, you won’t ever convince them anyway, brainworms burrowed deep, and their response is pure copium

I also had this very same debate years ago and the lib just raged and raged… basically saying that going to the moon worth more points than anything, there’s no arguing them out of this “West is always superior” position

The former means a whole lot on a spreadsheet, and not a lot anywhere else.

It’s like when shitlibs are thinking they made a great zinger when they point out that Russia has lower GDP than Italy. Great… how many tanks can Italy churn out in a year? How many artillery shells?

Italy couldn’t even produce enough pasta without importing the wheat.

NYT, who gives a fuck that he’s married and has kids? He’s a fucking scumbag.

Also NYT:

12 year old Palestinian men found dead after explosion near Hamas-run alleged hospital

i’m sorry but the kremlin can’t find a second russian who wants to prosecute this war.

yeah an interim gov led by Medvedev… he seems very chill about the war

Capital letters suggest it’s an NGO

The liberal won’t let him