Seriously! Amazing.
For me, my commute is easy, but I like road-tripping. I’ve got a flight ceiling of about 6 hours where it stops being fun. I’ve got a destination about 12 hours out that I love (Hot Springs AR, it rocks). I’d go to Hot Springs way more often if I didn’t need to drive it, or even if I could flip a switch and take a break safely.
So, they do have details in the source docs: they specifically reference both ADS and ADAS.
ADAS is currently a Tesla FSD-type experience. You need an attentive human in the driver’s seat (for now). It’s a driver’s aid.
ADS is the wild west. That’s what Waymo currently provides in their autonomous fleet. No occupants, no problem.
I am stoked to see how it does what Toyota trucks do best, which is hauling trailers and going either down rough roads or going entirely off-road. I wasn’t mentally ready for this news today, so I have no idea what this means for the fully off-road experience.
Yeah, I think smart/honest engineers do it exactly like that.
The GPS validates the physical rotation data, corrects for errors. That’s why the standard of accuracy has improved in the last 10 years.
That’s what fucks me up here! XD
Tesla is probably the most closely watched auto manufacturer on earth. And it’s mostly fans! So like, friendly faces doing hypermileage content or commenting to other friendly fans about their fuel savings…
The video I linked is literally a Tesla fan being like "oh wait, it skipped a mile, what the fuck, did it always do that?"
Very accurate. Most anti-tamp protections watch for lowering. Because who in their right mind would increase the mileage, right? :)
No reasonable manufacturer would do that. A manufacturer would be caught if they did that and – oh wait shit that’s exactly what happened
It’s trivially easy to discover odometer tampering in the USA, and the law is actually enforced.
Carfax, for instance, will automatically flag if any data point has the odometer lower its mileage. Each time a car is brought in for service or sold, the mileage is recorded. If any of the datapoints do not advance logically, the car is flagged and all sorts of liability questions arise.
If Carfax can purchase the data, I’m certain that insurers do, too. Insurance is legally mandatory, and the corporations don’t want to cover the cost of insuring a car with a cooked odometer (and unknown true mileage).
I mean this utterly unironically: I’m glad :)
Can’t argue with that XD
His main deal is that he does Tesla stuff. His website is “Tesla Pittsburgh,” so yeah, he’s a Tesla guy.
Disbanded!
… for effieciency!
No shit on that yikes. That blew my fucking mind.
Half the time when your AEB activates, you are unconscious or dazed and you’re just flailing around your cabin like a rag doll, because you’ve crashed. If your foot happens to flail into the accelerator, get ready for a very exciting (if short-lived) application of that impressive 0 to 60 time.
They call it the Model 3 because the Tesla Organ-Harvester didn’t translate well to Chinese
The new “Start Seeing Motorcycles” merch just dropped!
I don’t think anyone has reliable public data on miles travelled. If it existed, I would use it. The fact that it doesn’t exist tells you what you need to know about Level 2 ADAS system safety ;)
The only folks who are being real open with their data, near as I can tell, is Waymo. And Waymo has zero motorcycle fatalities, operating mostly in California, where the motorcycle driving culture is… absolutely fucking nuts uniquely risk-accepting.
My EMT career was both short lived and rewarding, right back at ya :)
Police report for 2024 case attached, it is also linked in the original article: https://www.opb.org/article/2025/01/15/tesla-may-face-less-accountability-for-crashes-under-trump/
It was Full Self Driving, according to the police. They know because they downloaded the data off the vehicle’s computer. The motorcyclist was killed on a freeway merge ramp.
All the rest is beyond my brief. Thought you might like the data to chew on, though.
Fair enough!
At least one of the fatalities is Full-Self Driving (it was cited by name in the police reports). The remainder are Autopilot. So, both systems kill motorcyclists. Tesla requests this data redacted from their NHTSA reporting, which specifically makes it difficult for consumers to measure which system is safer or if incremental safety improvements are actually being made.
You’re placing a lot if faith that the incremental updates are improvements without equivalent regressions. That data is specifically being concealed from you, and I think you should probably ask why. If there was good news behind those redactions, they wouldn’t be redactions.
I didn’t publish the software version data point because I agree with AA5B, it doesn’t matter. I honestly don’t care how it works. I care that it works well enough to safely cohabit the road with my manual transmission cromagnon self.
I’m not a “Tesla reporter,” I’m not trying to cover the incremental changes in their software versions. Plenty of Tesla fans doing that already. It only has my attention at all because it’s killing vulnerable road users, and for that analysis we don’t actually need to know which self-driving system version is killing people, just the make of car it is installed on.
My partner and I were actually debating that exact question before I posted it!
It’s just stock art, but of a rider in the Midwest. Custom exhaust, custom saddle and rack for that cafe racer look, and I just barely can’t make out the model on the engine fairing.
Here it is all big, let me know if you can figure it out: https://unsplash.com/photos/a-person-riding-a-motorcycle-on-a-city-street-kPfwWyUWubA
Looks hot, that’s why I picked it.
That’s my exact reaction to Waymos (also San Francisco). Both surreal and probably the direction of all automotive transit.