Are you implying that the kidnappings torture and persecution are only short-term? Do you not understand that we will have to win back our basic rights at this point. Not just for our immigrant friends and family, but all minorities? That seems a really obtuse and uninformed viewpoint. Which I’m hoping it’s just a misunderstanding on my part. And that that’s not your actual stance. This shit is serious and not short-term. We will be suffering this for Generations.

I mean unless you have some Surefire non-vanguardist radical action in your pocket or something.

Not committing self harm isn’t equivalent to Moving Mountains etc. This is the whole problem with that standpoint. Yes the genocides that the United States Russia and China are committing are inexcusable. They were also not actually on the ballot. There was no one who stood a chance of getting elected that was going to make those better. But there was one that vowed to make things worse. And they won. Like many of us said they would. There is no single one group that deserves credit for that victory. But the margin of votes was with in single digit percentage. It wasn’t moving a mountain.

I’m not here to accuse you of being happy with the outcome. But can you admit that you might have been taken advantage of. That your sincere Ernest desire to see things fixed may have been manipulated and taken advantage of to your own detriment and the determent of people you care about. Because I can tell you 100% that fascists, leninists, and other groups absolutely we’re stirring the pot. Not caring about who got hurt.

I have no problem with anyone talking to them and trying to de program any of those groups. What I do have a problem with, are people repeating propaganda and being manipulated by these groups to get everyone hurt. We are here.

As an anarchist I wish to see all national parties disbanded and abolished. Democrat, republican, green, libertarian, vanguard. And you’re not wrong that a lot of this has been going on since and including FDR. He should have actually tried and hung everyone found guilty of being involved with the business plot. Instead of making backroom deals to get Social Security Etc passed. Something which the people he spared set about immediately after it’s passage, gutting it.

The sad thing is, that Democrats deny their role in the failure, just as many of the so-called people on the left who spent so much time attacking them. But as they say success has many fathers, while failure is a bastard.

Heroic is freaking awesome. I never had much luck with lutris though it’s been a long time since I ever tried it. With heroic. I use it to manage all the free games I get through the Epic store and Amazon over 700 now. And it works on both windows and Linux flawlessly for the most part. With the check of a setting it will even add games to steam for you so if you just leave it running in the background you can start and play games through Steam just like they were installed there.

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

I can 100% hear dolly say this in my head.

Correct, and who could blame anyone but the writer of the headline gore.

What does this say about the law firms that caved? Either that they are guilty of something, so bad at their jobs that they can’t even defend themselves in a slam dunk case. Or more concerned with short term money gains than justice. It’s poison to any new prospect looking to do anything more than sell themselves for a quick cash out.

Honestly without knowing the context something like that actually would be easy to slip by. It’s absolutely simple to think of any campaign saying we need to find X votes in this region to win. Though usually we would just think they’re talking about actually winning votes and not just whipping them up out of thin air or disenfranchising others to get them.

And remember again. That wasn’t in the media very long at all. It was even more of a blip than anything related to January 6th. Republicans and fascists can keep a line in the public Consciousness for decades. Democrats can’t even stay focused on the truth and pushing it. For more than a month or two. Of course it’s really easy to perpetuate a message and control it when you control the media and Outlets that people get it from. So Democrats are always going to be at a disadvantage. Even if they did try.

Honestly I’m not sure what an actual good solution is to this problem. About the best I can think of right now is everyone should be friends with a good poli-size student when it comes to politics or someone involved in research science when it comes to science Etc. To help temper their understanding and cut through a lot of sensationalist b******* that gets put out there

Fear of clowns is a common. What internal demons possess a man, causing them to paint their faces in ridiculous unnatural hues. Or wear baggy ridiculous clothing. Taint natural I tells ya!

The mass media, even so called lefty MSNBC which is center at best. Though usually pretty solid right. Didn’t cover it with the appropriate tone or seriousness it deserved. MSNBC did at least start out that way and tried before giving up. The rest of the media never did. And so there was 4 years of largely rehab to trumps image. The simple fact that he incited a coup wasn’t brought up much for fear of losing access.

And so, people started to question their own eyes. Question whether there was actually really a coup or not. If it was just being blown out of proportion like conservatives blow fluoride in the water out of proportion. If the popular media isn’t going to treat it like it’s serious why would the average consumer of popular media?

Hell so much of the media spent so much more time covering Republican false accusations of Democrats smuggling in immigrants to hurt America. Suddenly the truth became lies and lies became the truth.

And before you admonish and ridicule these people for not going to such and such website to get the truth etc. A lot of people don’t get their information and news online still. Relying on the completely captured 4th estate to report on and distill even news happening online down for them. And this is the power of control and propaganda. For a short while at least perception can be reality. We need to spend less time haranguing and attacking people who mistakenly voted for trump. Instead trying to find a way to disarm and defeat the captured fourth estate.

Choosing not to engage is implicit consent. The largest voting block in the United States are the ones that don’t. There’s a reason they try to disillusion and disenfranchise people into not engaging or voting. It serves the purpose of the people who are the problem. Not the people who aren’t voting. And at some point other people’s problems become your own. So while it isn’t your job. It’s a good idea to keep things from getting that bad.

I’m not the one here trying to justify anything. That’s you. You’re the one here trying to pull off some ridiculous conspiracy theory where more than half the voting population are either mentally handicapped or evil in order to justify your 2 minutes hate.

Simply unwilling to acknowledge that the majority of people still get all their information from the mainstream media. The same mainstream media that we call out here on a daily basis for being tepid spineless and inaccurate in their coverage of everything including Palestine. The same mainstream media that has given Trump and Republicans far too much undue deference and respect. Propping them up. It’s not that you can’t understand the people who voted for Trump it’s that you don’t want to.

The fact that you could be on Reddit or Lemmy and claim that you are somehow not terminally online is especially hilarious. Being on either of those is absolutely terminally online. Brother we both are. You just lack the self-awareness. And that’s the problem.

It’s funny to watch you attack them for being in an echo chamber they didn’t seek. From an echo chamber you did. But I’m glad you can admit that you are dedicated to being the problem. And not the solution. It’s in curiosity and ignorance like that that will help the fascists continue to win. It’s just too much work to ask questions about how and why people behave the way they do. So much easier to just dismiss them as being less intelligent and informed than yourself. Just like they do to you.

The war plan is to be strong and woke AF. Fuck Slotkin

Wow it’s awful Brave of you to put yourself out there as an example of the problem I’m trying to illustrate. Thank you for posting this. This is an example 100% of what I’m talking about. The same arrogance, ignorance, and presumption that everyone has the same experience as you. That therefore you are superior to them. You are literally using the conservative/fascist Playbook to ridicule and other these people.

I’m sure that will win them over to your side. Or make things better. Not.

I think Depeche Mode put it better. People Are People. So why should it be, we should treat each other so awfully.

Just remember. If you want to paint with a broad brush categorizing people as idiots. You are numbered with them. We all are. But I would still stand gladly with them shoulder to shoulder. Against any oligarch or Vanguard.

Trump says vague shit all the time. Which that is a prime example of. He wasn’t specific. But he did not say it in a vacuum either. The mass media did a lot to sane wash it. To imply that it wasn’t as sweeping or horrific as it would actually be. And people believed them.

The mass media does not treat him as a fascistic man child narcissist. They shower him with undo respect and restraint. Thinking in some misguided Nevil Chamberlain sense, that appeasement will save them. Though to be fair plenty of them feel like they are in on it as well.

To deny that this is the case, that mass media has not failed us, that their failings to be informed are all on them and no one else. Is to dismiss them with the same touch that conservatives dismiss the poor the underserved and minorities. Simply by assuming they all have the exact same access and opportunity that we do. They don’t. Don’t be like conservatives and fascists. Yes people absolutely do need to do more to educate themselves. But we absolutely need to make it clear and easier to find proper sources to do that from and encourage them to do that.

When you make assumptions based on your personal experience you’ve already lost the debate.

The internet absolutely does that I agree. The problem is. That you think that everyone else is as terminally online as we are. And in that way you are as bad as they are. This isn’t an accusation against you specifically or anything. I’m just pointing out how we can all ultimately do bad things unintentionally. By simply assuming that everyone else is like us.

That’s an extreme misrepresentation. By being here, you’re an exception. And you’re judging them based on that. And this is the exact issue. They aren’t choosing anything. Options like Lemmy etc simply aren’t present to them. And that’s the issue.

You found it, and that’s great. Now figure out how to help normal people find it. And not driving them away.

While I upvoted you, and we absolutely did tell them that. Many of them through no fault of their own weren’t reached by the message. And that’s something we need to figure out how to fix. Because with the consolidation of media and AI, this is only going to get worse.

Patting ourselves on the back about being right. Will only comfort us so much, when our lack of reach etc. Continues to haunt us

I don’t know. Are Republicans fascist? If they are I’m pretty sure we can assume the answer.