Like eating vegan is something regular people do.
I get what you mean, but it’s phrased a bit weirdly 🙃
Like eating vegan is something regular people do.
I get what you mean, but it’s phrased a bit weirdly 🙃
Not at all! However I’m not sure if I’m the best person for that, my breakfast eating habits aren’t the best, I’d say :D
I’ve been raised with eating cake for breakfast, as my mother really likes to bake. Or, if there was no cake, bread (the german kind, I guess that might make a difference from a nutritional point of view) with marmalade. This caused me to also pick up baking and experiment with recipes to make vegan versions of them, which was a lot of fun and is now a new hobby.
Other than that, I usually drink black tea during breakfast, as I don’t drink coffee.
But most important is that you find your own “rhythm”. Eating habits and needs differ a lot between people. A friend of mine gets really hangry if they don’t eat a small snack every few hours in between meals. I can go for half a day without eating, but then also eat way too much afterwards.
Guess who is also arguing under this post? What a surprise…
Sometimes I’m wondering why I’m even engaging in these discussions at all. By now it’s probably just because I’ve reiterated the statements so often, that I just have the sources easily available, but I always know the outcome before I even post an answer. Such people aren’t really interested in actually discussing veganism.


It’s not like those major social media sites don’t have some kind of data center (or rent one) in every “major” (population wise) timezone they operate in. Your other arguments still hold true, but I think even then it would be better for all of us if those websites went down every now and then.
Sure, those are valid things to get “nervous” about, but that’s also possible with other pots and pans. Usually cooktop glass is hard enough to withstand metal moving on top of it, as long as you don’t deliberately try to scratch it.
As for the abrasiveness, I have a cast iron pan that’s coated with I think enamel at the bottom only. Not sure how common that is. But I also haven’t had problems with the ones that are not coated.
The weight is definitely a good point - handling them is a bit more difficult than the “lighter” pans, that can’t be argued away.
Haha, okay, if you’re juggling with your pans… But I also wouldn’t recommend doing that with other pots and pans, I don’t think the cooktop would handle them that much better.


I also can’t really come up with reasonable uses for excess power, there is only so much a household can use.
I just looked up the law and it’s even more fucked up than I remember. It only applies to installations with > 2 kWp, so the famous Balkonkraftwerke are not affected.
As long as you don’t have a smart meter (only about 5% of homes in Germany have a smart meter yet, disregard the 23.3% “Pflicht-Rollout”, they are misleading)), you are only allowed to feed up to 60% of the installed power back to the grid (e.g. if you have 10 kWp installed, and you generate an excess of more than 6 kW, you have to limit its output so that you only feed 6 kW to the grid).
The regulations for installations with a smart meter also changed, the details are too convoluted for me to really care, but in the end the new law aims to reduce solar power output during “noon”/peak production hours.
There are several reasons this annoys me, but the worst is, that the grid is not really “overloaded”, it’s mostly just that coal/oil/gas power plants don’t get regulated down as much.
Take, for example, this months electricity generation in Germany (You can click on the legend below to filter out generation types) - even though solar, wind and biomass is regularly able to provide enough power to meet demand for several hours a day, fossil fuel power plants are running during those times. Even gas, which supposedly is so flexible and only there to provide power when necessary.
Anyway, this is getting way too long already - the blame is put on solar and renewables, when it is also fossil fuel power plants that are not properly regulated.


That’s an interesting concept, sounds similar to the german WG (Wohngemeinschaft), but that’s, to my knowledge, also mostly used by younger people that are still studying or similar.
Should have mined bitcoin.
And since we’re already straying off topic, germany “recently” introduced a law where you have to limit rooftop solar production to 60% of the installed peak power (you’re not allowed to feed more than that back to the grid). Now I’m wondering whether I should start mining bitcoin at my parents place, despite my disgust for bitcoin. I’ll have to see whether I can get some E-waste to put together an appropriate rig, I’m definitely not getting new hardware for that, if at all.
I can’t help with stainless steel pans, but just wanted to add my two cents to
I don’t want cast iron, because it’s more likely to break the glass-topped induction cooktop.
I’ve been using cast iron pans on glass-topped (induction or not) cooktops with no problems whatsoever. I don’t see how they would cause more or less damage to the glass surface than other pans.
But I do understand that they’re not very suited for shared usage with housemates that don’t take proper care of them.
Even better is “Haare wachsen lassen”. One meaning is letting your hair grow, the other is waxing your hair. Pronounced exactly the same


I like your positive outlook on things, even if I personally don’t share it. I hope you can keep it :)


I’m curious whether the 2000 Watt goal can be achieved without some kind of “degrowth”, but it’s hard to argue with the current approach, as it still sounds so much better than what most other nations are doing.
As for housing and apartment sizes, I think that’s a trend that’s visible in almost all developed nations. I’m not sure how it was in other European countries, but at least in Germany up until a few generations ago it was not that uncommon to live in a house with multiple generations. (That’s a point that maybe doesn’t really belong here, but one could argue that there is no “real” housing crisis - in the sense that it’s self-inflicted - as living space per person and the size of apartments have been increasing over the last few decades, so obviously there won’t be enough housing)


I wish that concept was more well-known. I think I stumbled upon it the first time when I read the ministry for the future. However that concept includes stuff that makes people get defensive very quickly. E.g. switching to a vegan diet, reducing reliance on cars or sharing living spaces with more people (I guess the last one is so far out there that many don’t even consider it).
Some of those things can probably be achieved otherwise, but it’s going to take way more resources than … well, not doing those things. Electric cars require more resources than public transport, reducing energy for heating per person requires more insulation if you live alone…
Does the implementation of this in Switzerland include approaches relating to degrowth or is it mostly based on technological improvements?


Yep. I mean… the wikipedia article is right there, linked in the comment… according to it, Switzerland had a primary energy consumption of 5.1 kW per person in 2008 and reached 4 kW per person in 2020. So still quite some way to go


It’s 2 kW total primary energy consumption, including everything. Transportation, industrial production, food production, your own electricity consumption, everything


You don’t need AI for that. Automated phone answering systems do exist, and can redirect people.


There also is a deposit on glass bottles in germany. Just not on all of them, but the same applies to plastic bottles
Awesome! That recipe sounds really nice!
One thing that has been going through my mind, but I didn’t mention in my earlier reply: another approach would be to look at what you eat in the morning and trying to get similar macronutrients, i.e. do you usually eat more protein, carbohydrates or fats in the morning. Then you could try to find a mix that fits for you. But seems like you have it figured out :)