followed by the “soft poisoning” by trump after the election, with trump calling carney a “so called liberal” who “likes him” more than any of the other candidates, especially the “conservative one” even though on election night he was rooting for pp.

hes simply attempting to create a new wedge among progressives against carney, and also give a new talking point for conservatives and separatists in canada who support pp, seeing as he wants to stay in leadership (without a seat no less, lol)

we’ll see how it all plays out, but i think carney just blew some maple wood smoke up trumps ass to soften the blow for a while, likely a part of the reason he praised carney for being “nice”. but i also believe trumps still going to attempt to financially crippled canada to weaken our bargaining power and potentially attempt to annex us. (good luck, lol)

be wary of the mind games, if theres one thing trump knows how to do, its to get under peoples skin amd divide people with crazy bullshit and wild statements.

he doesnt give a shit about the white house. burn down mar a lago.

why wait when you can be the change.

unlike you, i dont “skim” counter arguments, i prefer to read and understand where they went wrong, or right. lets dive in to your mind a bit, shall we?

“Of course I’m aware it’s the largest item in its category once you filter spending into categories that specifically remove welfare and debt spending.”

Yeah, that’s kind of the point. You’re minimizing military spending by slicing up the budget categories until the elephant in the room fits in a closet. Within discretionary spending—the part Congress actually debates every year—military spending is the single biggest slice by far. In FY2024, the U.S. military budget was $842 billion, dwarfing most other departments. Acting like that’s a meaningless stat is disingenuous.

“Discretionary spending specifically is a small part of government expenditure…”

Only because mandatory programs like Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid are locked in. But when it comes to spending decisions our elected officials actively control, defense gets the lion’s share. So yeah, it’s still relevant.

“Military industrial complex doesn’t exist.”

Come on. This isn’t a conspiracy theory, it’s literal U.S. presidential history. Eisenhower coined the term in 1961 warning about the influence of the defense industry on public policy. Since then, the intertwining of defense contractors, government funding, and foreign policy has been extensively documented. Pretending it’s fake is like saying lobbying doesn’t exist.

“Majority of rich nations have debt.”

Sure. But the existence of debt doesn’t make all spending equal. A lot of those nations invest more proportionally in healthcare, infrastructure, and education. The U.S., meanwhile, throws nearly half of its discretionary budget at the Pentagon, while millions can’t afford basic meds. So debt isn’t the problem—how you spend is.

“US has ‘free’ healthcare it’s just worse than non-existent.”

This is just flat-out wrong. The U.S. doesn’t have free healthcare. Medicare, Medicaid, and the VA serve limited populations. Everyone else deals with high premiums, co-pays, and surprise bills. It’s literally the most expensive healthcare system in the world and still leaves millions under- or uninsured. So, no—it’s not “free,” and it’s not “worse than non-existent.” It’s just expensive and dysfunctional.

“Plenty of countries have ‘large’ homeless populations.”

That’s not the flex you think it is. The U.S. has one of the highest homelessness rates in the developed world, especially when measured against GDP per capita and housing stock. Comparing yourself to failing models doesn’t excuse your own failure.

“None of this is a capitalism problem. It’s all the fault of poor governance.”

Okay, but governance is shaped by the economic system. Capitalism, unregulated or poorly regulated, gives outsized power to corporations and billionaires who influence policy to protect their interests. That’s how you end up with tax loopholes, underfunded social programs, and endless defense budgets. Governance doesn’t exist in a vacuum. It’s downstream of capitalism in practice. the system itself is easily corruptable, making it extremely flawed.

“They’d be in a far worse spot if they were at the mercy of their government for everything.”

You’re already at the mercy of someone, either corporations or government. One is profit-driven, the other at least theoretically answerable to voters, or at least “was”. Acting like total privatization leads to freedom is just libertarian fanfic. and utterly insane.

TL; because i know you DR: You’re trying to minimize systemic issues by pretending they’re just bad luck or bad governance. But when you zoom out, they’re structural, tied to how capitalism works in the U.S. and who holds the power. Stop gaslighting people with bootstraps logic, its fox news drivel, and its not respected here.

read more, you obviously need to. if anyone here is posting a “vibes based” response, its you dude. i get you have a hard on for the “free market” but if you knew one thing about economics you’d know that the US stock market is the most corrupt one on earth, literally redesigned over the decades to filter money and shares from suckers to big fish, who in turn use it as leverage against the governments of the world. So they can further their agendas of power, control, and wealth aquisition. Trump, the “president”, was literally purchased and placed in his seat by a man who leveraged his overpriced, artificially inflated “hype” stock as collateral to buy a social media platform so he could spread the same rhetoric and misinformation you are currently spreading. that is a feature of capitalism, along with recessions that increase in frequency decade after decade. all so they can reap the new crops of small businesses and assets of the people for a song.

if you have any questions or statements. Im happy to educate any readers of these comments, correctly, with my responses.

the department of defence spending is the single largest catagory within discretionary spending. 842 billion in 2024 alone. easily verifiable if you cared enough to even type it into google. or use the wayback machine for pre trump admin white washing of .gov websites if you like it raw. dont even attempt to lump in social security and medicaid together along with several other discretionary spending categories like a talking head at fox news would to make your “point”, thats misinformation, or straight up confusion on your part.

this isnt a vibe, its a fact. so, with all do respect, perhaps practice what you preach, and do your research.

then why is the american military the largest expenditure by the US government? why does the military industrial complex exist? why does the “richest nation on earth” have the largest debt, no free healthcare, a massive homeless population, but also the most billionaires? why do they survive by exploiting third world countries where people starve to death daily? why do they constantly undermine socialist and communist movements in other countries that have valuable resources? going so far as to assassinate popular leaders and trading them for puppet dictators?

thats literally capitalism living off the backs of the poor, and murdering them for profit, and they have to keep them poor so they can take advantage of them. thats why capitalism hates unions, labour laws, and social reform at home and abroad. it effects the bottom line and maximum profit margins. its inherent in the system, and a part of its structure. its what allows it to “work” in the first place. and whenever capitalism has its way, unchecked, the poor suffer and die as a result. through no fault of their own besides being born into an unequal society, with little or no opportunity because of their lack of starting capital, compared to the wealthier participants in the same system.

i implore you to read almost any book on american history and economics. the US itself was built on genocide and slavery for the purpose of profit, under the guise of freedom. and that simply evolved into different forms over the years, its still prevalent to this day.

i wish you well on your journey of self education on this topic.

“they didnt tell me how wonderful the vaticans taste in furniture was…mmm…mmm…mmmm…”

just because we have shiny new inventions every year doesnt mean its working for everyone. the entire system of capitalism is based on taking advantage of the poor. to the point of killing them directly and indirectly en mass, through war and poverty related illness. so that the rich can own more property and assets.

its a horrible system.

what has PP done that isnt a talking point?

tool making most likely. also fire keeping, and cooking.

a call to arms? me? haha, no idea what you’re talking about…

please re read my last comment. i feel like you didnt understand it based on what you wrote. try to remove emotion from how you process my words.

targeted action is key to success. mindless violence towards innocents is pointless. and a shameful waste of life.

i wont write you a play by play, but imagine how you would logically carry out a militant plan yourself, and go from there.

(this is a thought excersize, purely hypothetical, and shouldnt be taken seriously by anyone reading this. there is no organized efforts here, same goes for all previous comments on this subject)

the US itself was a progressive movement built on violence. thats why you have the right to vote, and you dont hail the king. the constitution itself was written by extreme, violent, progressives (well, progressive for their time) also, people rally around (arguably) justified, righteous violence in the US, just look at luigi mangione for example.

also laying down and taking it will kill progressive movements for not decades, but centuries. look at basically all of history. for a long time (millenia) people of wealth were thought to be annointed by god himself. it wasnt until people starved in the face of their greed that violence became the only answer they understood. and its what is largely responsible for the birth of democracy and the shrinking monarchies over time. something trump/musk and co are seemingly trying to reverse. while casting the illusion that you “taking the high road” is somehow morally superior, rather than literally fighting for the rights of your friends, families, and neighbours. dooming them in the process to the whims of a new american fascist monarch.

people have died for your rights, its a shame the american peoples limit for retribution has been watered down to holding a clever quip on a piece of cardboard, compared to the actions that built your country and gave you your rights in the first place.

they want you to remain impotent, meak, and mild. they want you to feel hopeless. powerless. and they want you to think bumper stickers, signs, flags, and liking social media posts are silver bullets in the heart of fascism.

they are not. its just a small piece of rebellion against the forces of fascism. again, bark with no bite means nothing to those who have demonstrated they are willing to do both of those things.

“freedom isnt free, no, theres a hefty fuckin fee. and if you dont pitch in your buck o’ five, who will?” - Trey Parker.

i think the point hes getting at mainly is that none of the protesting groups are taking up firearms and removing the potus by force along with his cronies. you are not militant enough compared to what is written in your constitution for this exact scenerio.

protesting where the police allow you to is “controlled opposition” and its part of the allowed illusion of potential change. its what allows viewers at home who may agree with the movement, to feel hopeful, and like they dont have to do anything because someone else is already doing something. resolving things democratically will only take you so far with a head of state and entrenched system of control that not only doesnt follow the rules of democracy, but is actively trying to dismantle it.

protest as much as you wish, but if theres no bite after your bark, it rings hollow.

source? occupy wallstreet. where they poured champaign on protestors from high rises and skyscrapers, laughing, and taking pictures as they continued to rob everyone below. nothing changed. not really. if anything it got worse.

this isnt reddit, we try to read the article before we comment about the article. its just how we like to do things around here, so people dont spread misinfo in the comments.

• a german citizen, 1940

less competition

well he is a POS loser, and a dip shit moron. among other well earned accolades.

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