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Spectre@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 7 months ago

Political mindset evolution

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Spectre@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 7 months ago
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  • Xanthrax@lemmy.world
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    We could be nuked today

    I agree, we should focus more on climate change, though.

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      Climate change cannot be sufficiently addressed without oveethrowing capitalism. China built more solar capacity last year than the entirety of American installations and both American candidates support fracking.

      Join a local socialist org!

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        Lol they also built more coal plants than the rest of the world combined in 2023

        https://www.npr.org/2023/03/02/1160441919/china-is-building-six-times-more-new-coal-plants-than-other-countries-report-fin

        I swear you tankies are a hilariously ignorant bunch.

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          China did not start industrialization until 1949. Climate Change effects have been known since 1896 or 1824 depending on how you look at it. China literally did not start the fire 🔥

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            Lol China didn’t start the fire, but they’re literally pouring gas on it… it’s those damn western capitalist faults.

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          Yes, they are rapidly developing and increasing percentages of their overall power comes from renewables, especially Solar, which they have invested tons of money into R&D to make scaling that economical.

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          You seem to have misunderstood what I wrote. I said they installed more solar power than the US’s entire history, not a single year.

          China is fulfilling its internationally-agreed climate commitments while the major imperialist countries do not.

          You should find a more sustainable way to fulfill whatever drive makes you seek out this level of pointless smugness and guesswork gotchas.

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            https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/chinas-coal-country-full-steam-ahead-with-new-power-plants-despite-climate-2023-11-30/

            The fuck are you talking about, they get 70% of their power from coal, they built 6 new plants in 2023. What the hell makes you think they’re going to fullfil their agreements?

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              It sounds like you have made no attempt whatsoever to understand. I will wait for you to tell me that you have spent five minutes looking for the relevant information. If you can’t, just tell me you couldn’t fins it and I will gladly show you.

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                What type of response is that…if you have proof from a factual source, then post it. Stop talking like you’re some wise tankie jedi.

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                  Actually this is a very low bar but you managed to not clear it. This has confirmed a simple fact: you are here to fight and have no interest in the truth or learning. Obviously this was implied from the prior bad faith responses, but now we have cut to the chase.

                  Why should I waste my time?

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                    Lol ok tankie, I provide links and sources and you provided tankie shit talking points.

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        China

        socialist

        LMAO SRSLY?

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          Do you think you have fairly characterized my comment?

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          Yes, they have a Dictatorship of the Proletariat that carefully manages and plans a market economy in a transitional socialist state.

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            Yeah the proletariat are making the decisions in China. They’re a dictatorship of Xi.

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              You should read up on Whole-Process People’s Democracy.

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            I love well managed ghost cities woah!

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              The myth of China’s ghost cities

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              Developing for the future, what a wild concept!

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              Do you think that is a real thing?

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          I didn’t say that. Wrong comment chain.

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        I’m a communist. You guys came to debate yourselves.

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          ?

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      https://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-59-the-destroyer-of-worlds/

      I don’t remember the quote directly but it’s somewhere in the area of that;

      We have gotten so used to living in the shadow of annihilation that we’ve forgotten to fear the constant threat of global destruction that nuclear war is.

      This podcast really gave me some perspective on that.

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        Nuclear war didn’t happen and climate change is.

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          I see no reason why we can’t have both.

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            I don’t want any, that’s the point.

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              C’mon where is your sense of adventure.

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                I. don’t. want. bad. things. I. Want. A. Good. Life.

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                  Fair enough. I hope you get it.

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