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ThereRisesARedStar [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net to chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 9 months ago

Communists belong in DSA

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Communists belong in DSA

redstarcaucus.org

ThereRisesARedStar [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net to chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 9 months ago
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Communists Belong in DSA
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Too often, DSA is dismissed as a purely social democratic organization, and outsiders discount the communist organizing within it. As a Marxist-Leninist DSA caucus, we reject this narrative. DSA is our political home! We in Red Star are communists who believe that DSA is the most effective place to serve
  • jaywalker [they/them, any]@hexbear.net
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    9 months ago

    How is failing by a narrower margin not pulling them left if it’s people voting?

    If ten people vote for some leftist proposal and it fails, but then next year 20 people vote for some leftist proposal and it fails…is that not pulling that group to the left?

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      9 months ago

      Wake me up when something, even the slightest pittance, is actually achieved in the DSA’s policy, because the DSA as an organization has not moved left until its policy is affected.

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        9 months ago

        Did they not take a slightly stronger anti Zionist stance?

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          9 months ago

          Their statement was a little different, the potential policy differences were gutted.

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      That’s just a minor quantitative change. There’s no qualitative change.

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        9 months ago

        What does that mean?

        • ThereRisesARedStar [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.netOP
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          dialectical materialism posits that qualitative changes occur through the accumulation of quantitative changes- for example, adding grains of sand will eventually produce a pile of sand- I think this runs contrary to what they’re trying to argue though, so maybe I’m incorrect in what they’re referencing.

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