Lemmy is so Linux-focused and people are surprisingly opinionated about it.

    • Communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      18
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      5 months ago

      This really isn’t trua anymore with immutable kde distros, everything really does just work. You have to relearn some things but that’s a fundamental issue with switching to anything, the recent ltt experiment confirms pretty much the only thing that’s missing at this point is anticheat and it’s the year of the linux desktop. I feel like your stance was valid a few years ago.

      • HaveMouseWillTravel@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        5 months ago

        Let’s talk about my recent exercise in mapping persistent network drives: Windows: Right click in file explorer, select map drive, enter server path, user name password. Check the Reconnect at login checkbox. Click OK.

        Linux: Add user to soduers file, sudo make a directory in /mnt, chown of directory to user, sudo install smbclient, create a cedentials file with server user and password, modify fstab file and add mount command to that and refererwnce credential file, well network stack doesent load until after it tries to map the drives on boot so then I added a 60 second wait to wait for the network to come online.

        Yes, things are better now when it comes to installing and hardware compatibility, but for the average person the steps I took to map a network drive is not feasible to pull off. Most people just want things to work without going through multiple steps of trial and error

        • Cethin@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          5 months ago

          Yes, things are better now when it comes to installing and hardware compatibility, but for the average person the steps I took to map a network drive is not feasible to pull off. Most people just want things to work without going through multiple steps of trial and error

          Here’s you’re problem: the average person has never used a network drive. You aren’t an average user.

          I’m using Garuda, and have been for several years. 99.9% of the time, things just work. Then few times it doesn’t are when I’m trying to do something more advanced, and that’s fine. The experience for the average user is pretty much solved, and that’s what matters. If you are doing something more advanced, you also know how to figure out how to solve it.

          Is it perfect? Of course not. However, I (and I assume you too) am the type of user who modified registries in Windows to get things working how I want. That is far worse of an experience than anything I’ve had to do in Linux (for the simplicity of what it was doing at least). Sure, MS makes it pretty easy to do some things, but they also make it almost, if not actually, impossible to do others. I was tired of dealing with that and have enjoyed Linux much more.

          I didn’t like using Linux when I tried it the first few times 10+ years ago. Now, it’s pretty good, but you do have to commit to it. You have to learn how it works, just as you had to do for Windows at one point. Just because you forgot about all the shit you dealt with on Windows doesn’t mean it didn’t exist. You have to come to Linux knowing it’s not Windows, and you are not going to know how to do everything. If you come in with the mindset that it should work like Windows then you’ll inevitably have a bad time.

        • redsand@infosec.pub
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          5 months ago

          Click the script the IT guy gave you. Most end users don’t know what a network drive is.

      • Triumph@fedia.io
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        5 months ago

        This sounds very similar to things that were being said five and ten and fifteen years ago.

    • Eldritch@piefed.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      5 months ago

      A lot of that comes down to user error. Either in not managing/understanding expectations or using it on proper hardware. If you buy from a system integrator like system 76 tuxedo etc etc etc. You’re going to have a good Hardware experience. If you try using some random old laptop. There’s almost always going to be parts of it that don’t work or at least don’t work well.

      The other part is down to use case. If you are deependant on Mac only software and try to transition to windows you are going to have a hard time. It’s no different with Linux. Windows has ways of doing things, Mac has ways of doing things. Linux/BSD has many ways of doing things to. If you are not a new user. You’re adjusted to a specific ecosystem. Change will take time and effort.

      As to your stability problems. The biggest issue I’ve had in recent years was the upgrade to Wayland. There were issues around getting KDE switched over initially. But it was easily handled and smooth ever since. I have even switched over my entire immediate family and I have far less tech support issues than before. I will say though that post covid and definitely in the last 10 years there has been a dramatic sea change in everything. If you haven’t tried it in a while it’s definitely worth trying again. Linux is a better alternative than it’s ever been depending on your use case.