• rapchee@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I’m not saying it will work on everyone, but the fewer “supporting” arguments people have, the more questions they will not be able to reflexively dismiss
    and i’m basing this on myself, i used to be fairly religious, although i was on a “we don’t know what god really is, and the bible is not fully literal” level, so i didn’t have a problem with texts like this

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      2 days ago

      In your own words, what is faith?

      In mine:

      The denial of basic facts and the willingness to persevere in the face of all logic on instruction from a higher power for unknowable reasons.

      There’s no shot at converting these people because they already decided the outcome of any logical argument put before them.

      To them each incongruous fact is just a weird shaped puzzle piece that’ll fit their world view no matter how contrived.

      It’s why cult deprogramming is so incredibly difficult.

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        4 hours ago

        i don’t have a precise definition, i kinda tried but it doesn’t really matter imo (the definition, i mean)
        my point is that i think we shouldn’t just give up trying, at worst it helps atheists debate, but i might help someone leave their religion
        people do sometimes leave cults and religions. we might prevent someone joining a really bad one