From my very small sample size the main factors why people leave the job are 1. unreliable shift plans (having to fill in often and on short notice) 2. not enough time to take care of the patients needs (in other words too many patients per nurse) 3. harassment by male patients. I was kind of surprised that pay was not a complaint, but the money is apparently not that bad.
But I guess instead of quitting, some people just murder their patients, or give them saline injections instead of covid vaccines.
How much does pay actually matter in Germany? A while back I tried to understand the German income tax system and probably failed since it’s really quite complicated. But my takeaway from plugging in some numbers was that for families, after tax, incentives, child credit, benefits the gross income barely matters and you end up with more or less the same net income.
More gross should always mean more net, unless income is below full time minimum wage. Academics in finance or engineering don’t become rich from income, but tend to have a relatively care-free life. Minimum wage means constant struggle to pay bills and survive.
I’m not very familiar with the benefits for families. If you’re comparing two identical families, one with a lower income, and one with a higher income, the benfits and tax breaks should be mostly the same. Unless we’re talking about the very lower end, with one family having no income or below full time minimum wage - when benefits are the largest part of the income, the wage will be less important. Depending on what numbers you put in, it’s not unlikely that around 40% of a raise of gross income goes to social insurances and tax. It does depend on the exact tax class of each income earner and the tax bracket.
The tax system is a straight forward progressive tax. BUT net income is generally calculated after the deductions of social insurances, which are all calculated as % of income. Social insurances are usually more than the effective income tax, unless income is very high.
Between minimum wage (full time ~22k€ per year) and about 70k€ the tax rate and insurance cost goes up a lot, which reduces the difference in net income considerably. Below minimum wage (not in full time or whatever), benefits make up the difference in part. Above 70k, you reach the highest marginal tax rate (42%), and the social insurance costs are capped.
Unlike in most countries you dont study to become a nurse and are seen more like nursing assistant. Usually they trick a lot of foreigners into thinking they get a high-paying well-respected job when they apply for nursing industry in germany.
German hospice nurse seems like the worst job.
There was a story last year about a nurse getting fired for calling emergency services after being left alone to care for over 100 patients.
From my very small sample size the main factors why people leave the job are 1. unreliable shift plans (having to fill in often and on short notice) 2. not enough time to take care of the patients needs (in other words too many patients per nurse) 3. harassment by male patients. I was kind of surprised that pay was not a complaint, but the money is apparently not that bad.
But I guess instead of quitting, some people just murder their patients, or give them saline injections instead of covid vaccines.
How much does pay actually matter in Germany? A while back I tried to understand the German income tax system and probably failed since it’s really quite complicated. But my takeaway from plugging in some numbers was that for families, after tax, incentives, child credit, benefits the gross income barely matters and you end up with more or less the same net income.
More gross should always mean more net, unless income is below full time minimum wage. Academics in finance or engineering don’t become rich from income, but tend to have a relatively care-free life. Minimum wage means constant struggle to pay bills and survive.
I’m not very familiar with the benefits for families. If you’re comparing two identical families, one with a lower income, and one with a higher income, the benfits and tax breaks should be mostly the same. Unless we’re talking about the very lower end, with one family having no income or below full time minimum wage - when benefits are the largest part of the income, the wage will be less important. Depending on what numbers you put in, it’s not unlikely that around 40% of a raise of gross income goes to social insurances and tax. It does depend on the exact tax class of each income earner and the tax bracket.
The tax system is a straight forward progressive tax. BUT net income is generally calculated after the deductions of social insurances, which are all calculated as % of income. Social insurances are usually more than the effective income tax, unless income is very high.
Between minimum wage (full time ~22k€ per year) and about 70k€ the tax rate and insurance cost goes up a lot, which reduces the difference in net income considerably. Below minimum wage (not in full time or whatever), benefits make up the difference in part. Above 70k, you reach the highest marginal tax rate (42%), and the social insurance costs are capped.
https://xcancel.com/sozi_simon/status/1937278850917904435#m
Not sure what I’m supposed to do with that, seems like people on that thread are implying that people without a job should just starve or something
Unlike in most countries you dont study to become a nurse and are seen more like nursing assistant. Usually they trick a lot of foreigners into thinking they get a high-paying well-respected job when they apply for nursing industry in germany.