Setting aside any safety issues (which I’m not qualified to talk about and you don’t mention), “I don’t want to see it” is a bad reason to support the state locking people up. If this is the metric by which we ban kinks, then the logical endpoint is banning depictions of pretty much any kink that exists, since by definition any given kink is something that appeals to a relatively small number of people.
Oh for god’s sake. Look, I’m all for end of the line thinking, but I don’t exactly think trying to weed out some of the more harmful and disgusting aspects of pornography is the same as banning all kinks from online porn. I don’t want to see a lot of things in my porn, which is why I don’t specifically watch them.
Legitimate question, how do we determine what is harmful and disgusting enough to lock someone up over? Because I’ve seen people say this about kinks ranging from furry to hypnosis to petplay to bondage. None of the people making these arguments ever seem to draw the same line as each other or apply any real standards of proof, it’s always just vibes based “well obviously this is harmful” type of shit which is not a good standard for subjecting people to state violence.
I’ll be completely honest I have no earthly idea how to legislate this. I completely get where you’re coming from, I do, and I’m not trying to quibble over that aspect. I don’t know where the line gets drawn in weeding out bad habits and one person’s kink vs. another’s. My basic point was attempting to weed out this specific trend, which is happening more and more and becoming more and more normalized, from specialized forms of kink adult entertainment. Maybe forcing everything with this in it to have a specialized label or warning? I don’t know, honestly. I do know that quite a few of the young men I interact with online and IRL think choking during sex is normal, and that is not a good thing.
Setting aside any safety issues (which I’m not qualified to talk about and you don’t mention), “I don’t want to see it” is a bad reason to support the state locking people up. If this is the metric by which we ban kinks, then the logical endpoint is banning depictions of pretty much any kink that exists, since by definition any given kink is something that appeals to a relatively small number of people.
Oh for god’s sake. Look, I’m all for end of the line thinking, but I don’t exactly think trying to weed out some of the more harmful and disgusting aspects of pornography is the same as banning all kinks from online porn. I don’t want to see a lot of things in my porn, which is why I don’t specifically watch them.
Legitimate question, how do we determine what is harmful and disgusting enough to lock someone up over? Because I’ve seen people say this about kinks ranging from furry to hypnosis to petplay to bondage. None of the people making these arguments ever seem to draw the same line as each other or apply any real standards of proof, it’s always just vibes based “well obviously this is harmful” type of shit which is not a good standard for subjecting people to state violence.
I’ll be completely honest I have no earthly idea how to legislate this. I completely get where you’re coming from, I do, and I’m not trying to quibble over that aspect. I don’t know where the line gets drawn in weeding out bad habits and one person’s kink vs. another’s. My basic point was attempting to weed out this specific trend, which is happening more and more and becoming more and more normalized, from specialized forms of kink adult entertainment. Maybe forcing everything with this in it to have a specialized label or warning? I don’t know, honestly. I do know that quite a few of the young men I interact with online and IRL think choking during sex is normal, and that is not a good thing.