Oh I ain’t denying that it sucks ass, but there is a somewhat reasonable argument that can be made that just keeping what you can afloat and waiting for the feds to implode is the optimal strategy right now. It’s kinda like how the regional nationalist movements just kinda waited for the Soviets to implode towards the end. Not fun by any means and I personally disagree, I think the states should be black bagging the fuckers and shutting off utilities to their facilities. But open revolt is still at least a couple months away, kinda depends how long this shutdown goes on for and how economic effects manifest.
The federal gov imploding (especially if Federal Reserve is under control) can be many decades away, even several internal coups away.
Imo an open revolt in USA happens only when it becomes beyond clear the voting rights are taken over. And even then far from unanimous.
Atm neither “side” is there yet - the gov doesn’t have the infrastructure/environment to make a possible revolt manageable (hungry & overworked populous is a factor too), and the people don’t have the resolve to accept where, how fast, how premeditated, and how successfully the gov is moving.
(Oh, and a bunch of rich states seceding imho leads to immediate war. I don’t really see a peacefully way of that happening regardless of the public view. The federal border & poor state subsidies would destabilise the whole gov.)
I’m not angry at you but at this sentiment. When is the fucking time if not now?
Oh I ain’t denying that it sucks ass, but there is a somewhat reasonable argument that can be made that just keeping what you can afloat and waiting for the feds to implode is the optimal strategy right now. It’s kinda like how the regional nationalist movements just kinda waited for the Soviets to implode towards the end. Not fun by any means and I personally disagree, I think the states should be black bagging the fuckers and shutting off utilities to their facilities. But open revolt is still at least a couple months away, kinda depends how long this shutdown goes on for and how economic effects manifest.
The federal gov imploding (especially if Federal Reserve is under control) can be many decades away, even several internal coups away.
Imo an open revolt in USA happens only when it becomes beyond clear the voting rights are taken over. And even then far from unanimous.
Atm neither “side” is there yet - the gov doesn’t have the infrastructure/environment to make a possible revolt manageable (hungry & overworked populous is a factor too), and the people don’t have the resolve to accept where, how fast, how premeditated, and how successfully the gov is moving.
(Oh, and a bunch of rich states seceding imho leads to immediate war. I don’t really see a peacefully way of that happening regardless of the public view. The federal border & poor state subsidies would destabilise the whole gov.)