Let’s recap. The comment you replied to said that it would be false to say “ICE executes a US citizen by shooting him in the back of the head” because ICE didn’t kill him, and he wasn’t shot in the back of the head.
You replied (sarcastically) with “That’s OK then,” implying that you thought it was necessary to tell someone who stated correctly that ICE didn’t kill a man that what ICE did wasn’t OK. To be clear, that person didn’t say, “this is fine because the guy is still alive”, they were just correcting someone who falsely said ICE killed someone.
So why do you think literally anyone here thinks it is OK that someone got shot? Nobody has said that it’s OK. Just to spell it out:
you have read someone making a correct point that ICE didn’t kill someone as “ICE shot someone, but it’s OK.”
To me, that says one thing: you think that it is not important to speak the truth about ICE if that truth is that they didn’t behave in the worst possible way. Any truth that doesn’t align with the narrative of “ICE bad” is not important truth to you, right? The only statements that should be written are those which criticise ICE.
Does that sound about right? If so, then I’ll just say again: you need to be better than that. If not, then what possible reason do you have for asking “do you think it’s OK he got shot” when no-one said that it is OK?
My point, all along, is that ICE shouldn’t be behaving how they are, at all, it’s fucked.
And you felt the need to make that point, repeatedly, when no-one disagreed with it. And you won’t even begin to talk about why.
Yes, I think we absolutely need to make a decision between true things and false things. I don’t give a shit what country you associate that habit with because it’s so clearly important and positive. You’ll have to actually respond to me if you want to convince me that it is anything other than vital in today’s “post-truth” landscape.
I’ve told you why i said what i said repeatedly. I’ll say it one more time, but I won’t be entertaining it again ….
The fact that ICE felt comfortable shooting someone is fucked. No, you’re right, people shouldn’t be making things up, or not fact checking, but I’m not discussing that, I’m only talking about the shooting.
Additionally, as USAians, you need to be calling this out, loudly. It’s not enough to assume people will know you are anti-ICE.
Ffs. Is it really too much for you to grasp that I think that if people don’t loudly and blatantly call this and other ICE actions out, it looks like they’re ok with it?
You haven’t explained at all - and still haven’t - why you felt the need to accuse people of thinking it’s OK. Remember you started with “well that’s OK then” - implying the parent comment thought ICE was fine to shoot people - and then said “Do you think it’s ok he got shot?”
You have only explained that you think what ICE did was wrong. You haven’t explained why you felt the need to imply that other people thought what ICE did was right. I guess you aren’t going to.
Imagine if I replied to your comment with, “do you think it’s OK that JFK got shot?” You’d be pretty confused, right, because you haven’t said anything to suggest you thought it was. That’s exactly what you did, just with someone else, not JFK. There was exactly the same amount of hint that the person above that it was OK.
That’s ok then.
Does the truth only matter to you if it’s aligned in all respects with the narrative?
Be better.
Do you think it’s ok he got shot? Thats the problem, that ICE thought shooting someone, anyone, was ok. It’s not.
Let’s recap. The comment you replied to said that it would be false to say “ICE executes a US citizen by shooting him in the back of the head” because ICE didn’t kill him, and he wasn’t shot in the back of the head.
You replied (sarcastically) with “That’s OK then,” implying that you thought it was necessary to tell someone who stated correctly that ICE didn’t kill a man that what ICE did wasn’t OK. To be clear, that person didn’t say, “this is fine because the guy is still alive”, they were just correcting someone who falsely said ICE killed someone.
So why do you think literally anyone here thinks it is OK that someone got shot? Nobody has said that it’s OK. Just to spell it out:
you have read someone making a correct point that ICE didn’t kill someone as “ICE shot someone, but it’s OK.”
To me, that says one thing: you think that it is not important to speak the truth about ICE if that truth is that they didn’t behave in the worst possible way. Any truth that doesn’t align with the narrative of “ICE bad” is not important truth to you, right? The only statements that should be written are those which criticise ICE.
Does that sound about right? If so, then I’ll just say again: you need to be better than that. If not, then what possible reason do you have for asking “do you think it’s OK he got shot” when no-one said that it is OK?
I’m hugely disappointed that you feel the need to make the distinction, it’s incredibly USAian.
My point, all along, is that ICE shouldn’t be behaving how they are, at all, it’s fucked.
And you felt the need to make that point, repeatedly, when no-one disagreed with it. And you won’t even begin to talk about why.
Yes, I think we absolutely need to make a decision between true things and false things. I don’t give a shit what country you associate that habit with because it’s so clearly important and positive. You’ll have to actually respond to me if you want to convince me that it is anything other than vital in today’s “post-truth” landscape.
I’ve told you why i said what i said repeatedly. I’ll say it one more time, but I won’t be entertaining it again ….
The fact that ICE felt comfortable shooting someone is fucked. No, you’re right, people shouldn’t be making things up, or not fact checking, but I’m not discussing that, I’m only talking about the shooting.
Additionally, as USAians, you need to be calling this out, loudly. It’s not enough to assume people will know you are anti-ICE.
Ffs. Is it really too much for you to grasp that I think that if people don’t loudly and blatantly call this and other ICE actions out, it looks like they’re ok with it?
You haven’t explained at all - and still haven’t - why you felt the need to accuse people of thinking it’s OK. Remember you started with “well that’s OK then” - implying the parent comment thought ICE was fine to shoot people - and then said “Do you think it’s ok he got shot?”
You have only explained that you think what ICE did was wrong. You haven’t explained why you felt the need to imply that other people thought what ICE did was right. I guess you aren’t going to.
Imagine if I replied to your comment with, “do you think it’s OK that JFK got shot?” You’d be pretty confused, right, because you haven’t said anything to suggest you thought it was. That’s exactly what you did, just with someone else, not JFK. There was exactly the same amount of hint that the person above that it was OK.
But that was not the point. The point was did someone get executed or shot in the back? No-one is saying either story is ok but only one is true.
I’m disappointed that you feel the need to make the distinction.
The other one is a lie. I am disappointed in you at this point.
We shouldn’t even be getting as far as the lie.
It matters that they shot someone, at all.
Literally no one said anything to that effect. Learn to read.