• Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    19 hours ago

    The census is a tallying of the people that live in the country. Legal or not, immigrants do live here and should be counted. This argument is dumb on so many levels.

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        12 hours ago

        And Jim Banks isn’t even the dumbest Republican in the Senate. That honor goes to Tommy Tuberville, hands down.

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          18 hours ago

          There are a small portion of smart Republicans who are just evil and get the stupid ones to go along with them. See Project 2025 for an example.

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            Yeahhhhhh idk man. I just don’t think it’s smart to support the group of people spurring on the destruction of the very environment that they require to survive. Both in a global warming sense as well as a general societal sense. Absurd unethical greed has worked a couple of times in history, but it backfires really frequently.

            I think the smarter tactic would be to simply keep the machine running the same way it has been, while giving fractions of your wealth to the poor as a pittance. That way you can still live an absurdly privileged life and not have to worry about being shot in the street in NYC.

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          13 hours ago

          I’m not saying right or wrong, but it could impact who gets elected. Illegal immigrants don’t need to vote directly to impact elections due to the electoral college.

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            Yeah, I feel like you could easily I clude numbers for citizen and non-citizen. I don’t think non-citizen should affect the number of electorates. I do think it’s an important consideration for that state’s elected officials, because the people do exist.

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            Too fucking bad for the whiners because the Constitution straight up doesn’t care. Probably because they’d have thought we were being weird fuckheads on border control.

            All voting rights addressed by the Constitution are amendments prohibiting various forms of discrimination. You don’t even technically have to be a citizen to vote per Constitutional law, that’s just a restriction agreed upon by all state laws.

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              Fundamentally, I’m not sure why being a citizen, or even legal status, should matter when it comes to voting. When you consider that a US citizen can move to a new state/local jurisdiction and immediately vote in those elections with just proof of residency in that jurisdiction, then it seems like the proof of residency is what’s really important in determining whether you can vote in a given election.