As someone who just bought car last year, I think Kia is the closest one serving that market. We made a list of potential cars that had what we wanted. It had to be under $35k and it had to have certain features without needing to subscribe to some service. We added a few Kiad to our list and I’ll admit they were quite tempting as they had everything we wanted for less than all the other cars on our list. In the end we ended up getting a Prius, but the Kias were pretty close for us.
Subaru seems to give the customer a fair shake as well - I haven’t had issues with my vehicle or their supply chain, and checking their current prices they do have entry level (albeit a bit higher than the old floor) pricing.
Yes, it’s new. My 2016 is fine and my ex’s 2025 is annoying, but I don’t know what year in that range it started. It should be a small thing. I shouldn’t care. But wtf, do you think so little of our intelligence that programming an artificially worse experience will make us like them more?
As someone who just bought car last year, I think Kia is the closest one serving that market. We made a list of potential cars that had what we wanted. It had to be under $35k and it had to have certain features without needing to subscribe to some service. We added a few Kiad to our list and I’ll admit they were quite tempting as they had everything we wanted for less than all the other cars on our list. In the end we ended up getting a Prius, but the Kias were pretty close for us.
Subaru seems to give the customer a fair shake as well - I haven’t had issues with my vehicle or their supply chain, and checking their current prices they do have entry level (albeit a bit higher than the old floor) pricing.
I used to love Subarus, but they lost me on the condescending fake shift points on their newer CVTs.
Ah, I have a late 2010s model, wonder if that’s a new initiative.
Yes, it’s new. My 2016 is fine and my ex’s 2025 is annoying, but I don’t know what year in that range it started. It should be a small thing. I shouldn’t care. But wtf, do you think so little of our intelligence that programming an artificially worse experience will make us like them more?