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The government pushed propaganda to oversaturate STEM to drive down the cost of skilled labor.
It worked as intended.
Let’s be real, a lot of people got in in the hopes of appeasing “the market”. What “the market” wanted, and still wants, is an excess of qualified people, so they can more easily pick, choose and abuse the workers. This has been the case for ages.
It didn’t backfire for employers. I’m sure newly-minted coding boot campers depressed wages for everyone.
“get a degree and you’ll have a job” backfired
The opposite is fucking people over lately too. Pure coding jobs are passing people over because they don’t have literally any degree and it’s insane. 10 years of experience but no degree? Pass. Fresh out of a bootcamp and a bachelors in music? You’re hired!
It’s about rewarding people who paid into the system and punishing those who did not.
Oh. There’s been a time when I thought this happens in ex-USSR, but not in your cowboy lands.
AI propaganda
The best programmers, sysadmins, and other techies I’ve worked with had humanities degrees. Being a STEMlord who can’t be nice or express yourself well in words will put you at a disadvantage in even the nerdiest of jobs.
To quote Adam Savage; The one skill to focus on, is how easy you are to work with. People will always take the less skilled but easy to interact with person, before the “full of them self” savant.
I’m using the word quote here in the broadest of sense. Cause I know I’m butchering the quote. Only remember the gist of it.
I also vaguely remember the quote you’re referencing and I think you got the gist of it.
I am working with a full team of low skilled, feely-touchy people.
The product is no where usable, the parent company is starting to increase the pressure to deliver, but hey, it’s a nice place to stay until the doors close.
I would take a team of moderately-skilled, emotionally intelligent people over a team of expert jerks who like the smell of their own farts.
I wouldn’t want to work with a low-skilled team of anyone.
Yeah, Adam Savage was saying that as a highly skilled person. I’ve worked with personality hires. I’ve worked with military-grade weaponized autism. I prefer the autism, because at least I don’t need to babysit them and double-check all of their work.
With the autists, at least you can reliably know “if I give them {A}, I’ll get {B} in return. Not {B-1}, not {B+1}. Always {B}.” I don’t mind teaching. It’s inevitable in any job. But working with personality hires always ends up being an exercise in patience, because there’s only so many times I can show someone how to do something. I work in an industry with extremely strict deadlines where your work is presented to hundreds or thousands of people at a time. So if a personality hire needs to be re-trained on things because they can’t grasp something, (or just keeps doing things wrong because they don’t want to ask for help), then it puts an extra burden on the rest of us to keep meeting those deadlines.
Hope everyone has updated their resumes already
other techies I’ve worked with had humanities degrees
My sister, who’s been an occupational therapist, personal assistant and on other ‘soft’ jobs recently got hired as a helpdesk employee just for that reason. Apparently it’s easier to teach a humanist to reset M365 passwords and do simple troubleshooting than teach a techie on how to deal with humans (which is a major part of being an on-call support for anything).
She talks to the customers so the engineers don’t have to.
She has people skills. She is good at dealing with people.
Psych major, reporting in
Zuck, you?
History for me
Got no degree but study psychiatry, history and Philosophie in private. Autism am i right?
art major here
Yeah imagine putting a decade into something that only existed for three only to find that doesn’t exist anymore compared to the thousand years old profession of chicken. Sources (Long 3x poultry)
