You know, it’s like you’re walking through the forest, enjoying its beauty, and then you don’t notice how a hungry bear attacks you, even though you were warned about it.
What a shame, when the trap snaps it will be very painful…
You know, it’s like you’re walking through the forest, enjoying its beauty, and then you don’t notice how a hungry bear attacks you, even though you were warned about it.
What a shame, when the trap snaps it will be very painful…
I’ve never used mastodon and I’m not familiar with mastodon.lol. I’m fairly new to federated platforms in general tbh just figuring it out as I go along. I tend to browse all instances but I made an account on lemmy.ml because that was the one that was recommended to me on reddit. might join a different instance at some point if I find lemmy.ml to be unsatisfactory at some point e.g. if I find out they defederated from some instance I am interested in.
The peer pressure thing… I mean yeah, people voice their opinions, disagree, and if they can’t reconcile they defederate. It’s messy but I think that’s kind of the point. The only alternative to peer relationships is some kind of asymmetry.
dot ml was the first sort of the original hub of the content aggregator part of the Fediverse. Designed and populated initially by political hypocrites who’s behavior and unpopular opinions saw them banned from everywhere else. But that hasn’t really been the case anymore for a while now.
Better part of a decade on and there are a number of other software stacks doing the same thing. And plenty more instances outside ML serving content to the larger Fediverse. Put it this way. If you avoid politics like the plague and only use communities on ML for extremely niche, tech, or fandom like things. You’ll probably have an okay experience. However, if you ever have a moment where you are forced to shore up your reality and beliefs against theirs. They’ll come down on you like a ton of bricks and most likely ban you. No matter the evidence you have or your good faith. Their reality is tenuous, and can not stand scrutiny.
The problem being that it isn’t even the mods over there. It’s the admins ruling with an iron fist in favour of their ideology. Contrasted with dot world, recently there was a broughaha about a moderator of a large community there, being reactionary and immature. When someone pressed the admins of the instance, whether or not they agreed with it or supported it. They said no. And left it at that. Because the individual hadn’t violated the rules and their fellow moderators hadn’t asked for it. It wasn’t their place to remove them for being unpopular. Conversely if you persist in disagreeing with CCP, FSB, or DPRK propaganda. No matter how civil or polite you are ml admins WILL find a reason to ban.
Interesting. Didn’t know that this instance had that reputation. Is there anyone out there archiving and cataloguing removed posts / comments across instances? I’d be curious to see some data around this. Would be a fun NLP project to try to identify who might be running certain instances based on the ideological bent of their censorship interests. Could be fun to try to parse out state propagandists from the religious extremists, from the single-issue warriors, from the non-ideological power-trippers, etc.
To an extent. !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works !tankiejerk@piefed.social !tankiejerk@lemmy.world all document some. I don’t know that anyone is archiving en mass. It’s rather a moving target.
It’s common enough that many, seeing someone posting from an ML automatically become irritated and combative. Which you can see here to an extent. Bad experiences with their instances and select users are pretty wide spread.
As mentioned earlier, Lemmy got it’s start because it’s creators were so toxic they were banned from most other places. While many of us chose to leave reddit years ago as enshittification accelerated. Lemmy’s creators did it out of necessity. They couldn’t be kicked out of a place they ran, no matter how toxically they behave. They have been defederated /cut off from a decent chunk of the fediverse still. The only reason you were able to post here, is because Lemmy.ml being the flagship server/ Cess pool playground of the software’s developers. Is given some leeway. That and they didn’t brigade from that server specifically. They used the other two, hex and grad which are widely defederated because of it.
I appreciate the perspective. Think I’ll do some instance shopping.
It’s the great feature of the service.You can find an instance to suit your tastes.There are plenty more general instances out there. instances that are focused on certain regions or languages. There’s even a few out there dedicated to specific political ideologies. Such as the one you’re on, there’s even an instance that’s generally anarchist. Though that doesn’t mean you need to be on one that matches your ideology. I’m an anarchist and don’t have an account on the anarchist instances. I can still interact with them and their communities if I want.
In fact, the only thing you need to look at is what you currently interact with. And if the server you choose still federates with where it comes from. This isn’t my first server either. Communities on hexbear and lemmygrad are going to be inaccessible on most other instances. But most of the rest are all fully federated.