I mean it seems unlikely but what if they could be rehabilitated? Instead of keeping them as a prisoner indefinitely we might be able to have them contribute something to society?
Because for too many people it’s easier to just give up and do horrible things to people they decide are horrible than to try to make any better meaningful changes.
I’m Jewish and I have no problem with violence against Nazis or fascists but I draw the line at shit like “kill them all” or whatever. That’s for the top brass, taking away some random person’s chance to learn from their mistakes and grow isn’t worth it.
I think it’s an oversimplification to say that many people just give up and start being arseholes. I think most of it is education and their treatment and experience in their formative years including in utero. They either don’t or can’t think through the full consequences of their choices or they’ve been conditioned to think the shitty action is fine.
People can be educated or reeducated at any age which can help them understand why their actions might suck.
Fixing a person broken by fetal alcohol syndrome or years of mental or physical abuse is a lot harder if it’s even possible at all.
Does branding them or murdering them benefit society? How are we any better than those people we branded or murdered, should we then not be branded or murdered ourselves for doing objectively evil things? Where does it end?
Certainly people who do bad things should be imprisoned, but the goal should be rehabilitation rather than retribution.
Peacetime is a lot different than war where it’s kill or be killed, but war crimes are a thing for a reason. The Nazis did some truly horrific things, but the Americans murdered 2 million odd Vietnamese in the Vietnam war, many of them civilians, many of them suffering horrible deaths being burned alive or being doused with agent orange, should we also start carving symbols into the faces of Americans because they supported horrible things, or even just not giving individuals a chance for rehabilitation?
A complex political system is not the same as the acts of a single person. The Nazi killing machine had lots of people involved that just did small things far removed from the actual killing. Eichmann organizing the trains is a big example. There are countless clerks, secretaries, technicians, bookkeepers, machinists, drivers, kitchen staff, technicians, and so on that kept the system running.
There are countless human scum nazi who were fine with their neighbors being murdered as long as they stayed comfortable, even as they worked for the killers.
For too many people, admitting being wrong and a hate-filled savage clothes-wearing monkey, so easy to manipulate and they fell right in like a mindless idiot… is a fate as bad as death.
A serial murder killed a hundred people. But maybe he’ll change. Surely he learned that killing is bad… just let him go free.
I mean it seems unlikely but what if they could be rehabilitated? Instead of keeping them as a prisoner indefinitely we might be able to have them contribute something to society?
Perhaps. But are you willing the explain that to the next 100 victims?
Why would you let them return the society if they weren’t rehabilitated?
Because for too many people it’s easier to just give up and do horrible things to people they decide are horrible than to try to make any better meaningful changes.
I’m Jewish and I have no problem with violence against Nazis or fascists but I draw the line at shit like “kill them all” or whatever. That’s for the top brass, taking away some random person’s chance to learn from their mistakes and grow isn’t worth it.
I think it’s an oversimplification to say that many people just give up and start being arseholes. I think most of it is education and their treatment and experience in their formative years including in utero. They either don’t or can’t think through the full consequences of their choices or they’ve been conditioned to think the shitty action is fine.
People can be educated or reeducated at any age which can help them understand why their actions might suck.
Fixing a person broken by fetal alcohol syndrome or years of mental or physical abuse is a lot harder if it’s even possible at all.
Does branding them or murdering them benefit society? How are we any better than those people we branded or murdered, should we then not be branded or murdered ourselves for doing objectively evil things? Where does it end?
Certainly people who do bad things should be imprisoned, but the goal should be rehabilitation rather than retribution.
Peacetime is a lot different than war where it’s kill or be killed, but war crimes are a thing for a reason. The Nazis did some truly horrific things, but the Americans murdered 2 million odd Vietnamese in the Vietnam war, many of them civilians, many of them suffering horrible deaths being burned alive or being doused with agent orange, should we also start carving symbols into the faces of Americans because they supported horrible things, or even just not giving individuals a chance for rehabilitation?
A complex political system is not the same as the acts of a single person. The Nazi killing machine had lots of people involved that just did small things far removed from the actual killing. Eichmann organizing the trains is a big example. There are countless clerks, secretaries, technicians, bookkeepers, machinists, drivers, kitchen staff, technicians, and so on that kept the system running.
There are countless human scum nazi who were fine with their neighbors being murdered as long as they stayed comfortable, even as they worked for the killers.
For too many people, admitting being wrong and a hate-filled savage clothes-wearing monkey, so easy to manipulate and they fell right in like a mindless idiot… is a fate as bad as death.