God is love just don’t ask for the receipts

He’s all powerful except for whenever

How many Jesus, the Living Embodiment of YHWH, does it take to change a lightbulb

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    6 days ago

    Not at all. Jesus was all about people helping other people. God interfering in the affairs of man would impede their free will, but people helping people would be them exercising their free will.

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      3 days ago

      That doesn’t make sense.

      If i choose to murder someone i am impeding their free will.

      If god chooses to save someone from murder, then it impedes the free will of the murderer.

      Why is only one of those a problem?

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        3 days ago

        It’s like the difference between the government punishing you for free speech and a Lemmy mod banning you.

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          2 days ago

          In your example the outcomes are different. What if the only difference was the actor who stopped the murder, would that still make a difference?

          Eg: if i trip a murderer so they can’t kill the victim, vs if god causes a murderer to trip. Ia one of those violating free will and a other one not?

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            1 day ago

            Maybe it’ll help to think about it in terms of an experiment. God is the scientist and humans are the test subjects. If the scientist interferes with the test subjects, the data loses meaning, but if the test subjects interfere with each other it’s just part of the experiment.

            Basically: supreme authority interfering = bad.

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              1 day ago

              Except an all knowing entity has absolutely no reason to run experiments. This is a bad analogy.

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                24 hours ago

                It’s not a bad analogy, you’re just not understanding the core concept that a higher power interfering is different than interpersonal interactions.

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                  23 hours ago

                  Or maybe it is a bad analogy, and the reason I don’t understand your position is that it doesn’t make sense.