To me it looks like their numbers may be trending down already so a boycott could be extra effective. If they have lots of customers already considering leaving then giving them an excuse like participating in a boycott in defense of free speech could help accelerate that trend and make a bigger impact.
Well yes, it’s not a very tight upper bound, but I was bringing it down from infinity. I’m glad the scientific process is working and we’re refining this (in droves) over time.
Given that each person can hold as many accounts as they like, the number of accounts that’ve closed is anywhere from 8.01 to (2.4billion-.25)*4infinity (because I had only one account). I can see why they’re panicking
I wouldn’t be so sure about that, the Disney brand has taken a major hit here. I think it is still impossible to say what it is going to cost them but it will cost them, they certainly aren’t making more money out of this. It is not a situation that makes the line go up, people are absolutely pissed at Disney.
Yes, they have. Being seen to capitulate on free speech has pissed a lot of people off. His ratings are irrelevant, people who hate Kimmel are pissed because it’s not about him specifically.
Your image with the Kimmel quote is a different situation. Businesses are free to make business decisions, that is exactly the problem here. They were not free, and as Trump has reiterated, there’s now a new censorship regime enforced by the FCC which is going to continue interfering in these businesses to silence critics.
The FCC said they might investigate because there are laws around what can be shown/said on free to air broadcast television, and blatant lying and spreading misinformation for political reasons is, shockingly, not allowed.
It’s funny that the left are now cranky at Disney and trying to “cancel” them, thinking it will piss off the right, while the right has been vocally anti-Disney for years lol.
You seem to either be uninformed or not commenting in good faith. The FCC explicitly coerced Disney, Trump in his own words says they are going after these companies for being critical of him. Using the power of the state in this way is categorically different than social movements trying to “cancel” people.
Cowards will be cowards I say, but us simpletons don’t understand the high stakes and day to day pressures of a modern multinational corporate conglomerate. They have profit margins, investor boards, and mergers to consider. Heavens! What good is free speech if they don’t make more money this quarter than they made last quarter? Please, good people of the Fediverse, won’t somebody think of the shareholders?
Hopium. Not enough to matter
All efforts great and small.
Agreed. Something is better than nothing, and if enough people get on board, it might just be enough to make a difference.
Extending that, it’s going to take a lot of people doing a lot of different things, from all angles, to ultimately succeed in quashing fascism again.
Well, let’s get crackin’ then! 👊
Examples of simple, non-aggressive things that anyone can do:
I didn’t see any numbers in TFA. Do you have any numbers? I think we just don’t know.
More than one drove. Upper bound is infinite droves.
A drove has at least 4 people in it so we can establish an upper bound of 2.4 billion droves.
I think your upper bound is too many droves, the limit is total Disney Plus subscribers.
Here is some potentially useful data: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1095372/disney-plus-number-of-subscribers-us/
To me it looks like their numbers may be trending down already so a boycott could be extra effective. If they have lots of customers already considering leaving then giving them an excuse like participating in a boycott in defense of free speech could help accelerate that trend and make a bigger impact.
Well yes, it’s not a very tight upper bound, but I was bringing it down from infinity. I’m glad the scientific process is working and we’re refining this (in droves) over time.
Given that each person can hold as many accounts as they like, the number of accounts that’ve closed is anywhere from 8.01 to (2.4billion-.25)*4infinity (because I had only one account). I can see why they’re panicking
I think we can speculate with a high degree of confidence that it won’t influence their profit growth projections.
Now that quarterly reports are a thing of the past
I wouldn’t be so sure about that, the Disney brand has taken a major hit here. I think it is still impossible to say what it is going to cost them but it will cost them, they certainly aren’t making more money out of this. It is not a situation that makes the line go up, people are absolutely pissed at Disney.
The Disney brand has taken a huge hit because they fired Kimmel, a guy who’s rating were tanking? Lol
Disney made a business decision, and Kimmel approves of them doing that quickly and strongly.
Yes, they have. Being seen to capitulate on free speech has pissed a lot of people off. His ratings are irrelevant, people who hate Kimmel are pissed because it’s not about him specifically.
Your image with the Kimmel quote is a different situation. Businesses are free to make business decisions, that is exactly the problem here. They were not free, and as Trump has reiterated, there’s now a new censorship regime enforced by the FCC which is going to continue interfering in these businesses to silence critics.
ABC chose to cancel his show. Trump didn’t.
The FCC said they might investigate because there are laws around what can be shown/said on free to air broadcast television, and blatant lying and spreading misinformation for political reasons is, shockingly, not allowed.
It’s funny that the left are now cranky at Disney and trying to “cancel” them, thinking it will piss off the right, while the right has been vocally anti-Disney for years lol.
You seem to either be uninformed or not commenting in good faith. The FCC explicitly coerced Disney, Trump in his own words says they are going after these companies for being critical of him. Using the power of the state in this way is categorically different than social movements trying to “cancel” people.
Got some evidence of that? Since you said “explicitly” I take it that the FCC publicly told them to fire him and cancel his show, right?
I wouldn’t hold my breath
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I suspect the amount of money they’d need to lose before they change course is actually quite small.
Cowards will be cowards I say, but us simpletons don’t understand the high stakes and day to day pressures of a modern multinational corporate conglomerate. They have profit margins, investor boards, and mergers to consider. Heavens! What good is free speech if they don’t make more money this quarter than they made last quarter? Please, good people of the Fediverse, won’t somebody think of the shareholders?