Bill Burr can be very funny, but in the end he’s right there just reciting the mantra of every man who heard “no” and thought “she just needs more persuasion”.
Is he right that this sometimes happens? Undoubtedly. Sexual dynamics are EXTREMELY complicated. Is this the norm? Certainly not in my experience. A lot of the times people use the style he’s mocking there TO DISARM A SITUATION where SOMEONE WHO CAN HURT THEM BADLY WITH EASE might get VERY FUCKING ANGRY because you said “no”.
I sometimes think “man or bear?” was the wrong idea. It should be “man and bear”. Locked into a room. So that men can learn what it’s like to be physically weaker in the presence of something stronger than them and very aggressive to boot.
I hear you, but worth mentioning that most men have been in the presence of something stronger and aggressive, in the form of other men. From abusive father’s, older siblings, to the general school environment. Violence and the threat of violence is something men feel growing up and it doesn’t really go away.
I’m not saying that threat isn’t more acute for women, or minimizing that lived experience - when a man is trying to force himself onto you it must be terrifying and I know from my sisters and wife that it happens a lot, and often in more subtle and low-key ways than outright aggression (although that’s often the underlying threat).
But yeah… as someone who’s been beaten up a few times just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, or wearing the wrong t-shirt, I’m under no illusion as to how dangerous men can be.
Hi yeah thanks for saying hi! Yes absolutely agree male violence against men matters. We are a women’s only community so please don’t comment again thanks for understanding 🥰
Bill Burr can be very funny, but in the end he’s right there just reciting the mantra of every man who heard “no” and thought “she just needs more persuasion”.
Is he right that this sometimes happens? Undoubtedly. Sexual dynamics are EXTREMELY complicated. Is this the norm? Certainly not in my experience. A lot of the times people use the style he’s mocking there TO DISARM A SITUATION where SOMEONE WHO CAN HURT THEM BADLY WITH EASE might get VERY FUCKING ANGRY because you said “no”.
I sometimes think “man or bear?” was the wrong idea. It should be “man and bear”. Locked into a room. So that men can learn what it’s like to be physically weaker in the presence of something stronger than them and very aggressive to boot.
I hear you, but worth mentioning that most men have been in the presence of something stronger and aggressive, in the form of other men. From abusive father’s, older siblings, to the general school environment. Violence and the threat of violence is something men feel growing up and it doesn’t really go away.
I’m not saying that threat isn’t more acute for women, or minimizing that lived experience - when a man is trying to force himself onto you it must be terrifying and I know from my sisters and wife that it happens a lot, and often in more subtle and low-key ways than outright aggression (although that’s often the underlying threat).
But yeah… as someone who’s been beaten up a few times just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, or wearing the wrong t-shirt, I’m under no illusion as to how dangerous men can be.
Hi yeah thanks for saying hi! Yes absolutely agree male violence against men matters. We are a women’s only community so please don’t comment again thanks for understanding 🥰
My apologies, I hadn’t appreciated that - all the best
You too mate