I mean, it depends. You kind of avoided the question a bit. But I suppose I could have worded it better, too. So I’ll take the L on that one. What I’m getting at is (1) what is your stance on Israel regarding Palestine, and specifically what would be your ideal for the future of Palestine; and (2) what is your position on Jews as a people group separate from Israel?
Anyone with a shred of empathy—left, right, or center—should want the best possible outcome for all people. A two-state solution might sound nice in theory, but religion and generations of grudges make it close to impossible. Most of these fights go back to things that happened long before anyone alive today was even born.
And let’s be honest: in 1948, Jewish groups like Haganah, Irgun, and Lehi used violence against the British and Arabs to carve out the state of Israel. That’s not a conspiracy, it is history. But if I have to pick a side, I pick Israel. Why? Because the U.S. needs a reliable ally in the Middle East, Israel has been that ally. That means we back them, we arm them, and we keep them standing.
But supporting an ally doesn’t mean turning a blind eye. Wiping out Palestinians isn’t justice any more than wiping out Jews in the 30s and 40s was. Wrong is wrong. And calling every criticism of Israel ‘antisemitic’ is just lazy—it’s a way to shut down the conversation instead of facing hard truths.
As for Jews as a people—separate from the state—they’ve survived thousands of years of persecution, and still managed to contribute massively to humanity. My respect for Jewish people isn’t conditional on Israeli policy.
Now my question to you is, how does my stance on one subject determine my political leanings as a whole?
My views on Israel are thankfully I dont live in Israel. Eventually, they will sleep in the bed they made, just like everyone else.
Did I pass your liberal test?
You avoided the question by posting some meaningless truism, so yes, definitely what liberals do.
You got me, oh shit the kill shot. Dead. Aaaagghhhhhh. Here I come Elizabeth! It’s the big one!
You’re not only lib and a zionist but a pigeon too it seems.
I mean, it depends. You kind of avoided the question a bit. But I suppose I could have worded it better, too. So I’ll take the L on that one. What I’m getting at is (1) what is your stance on Israel regarding Palestine, and specifically what would be your ideal for the future of Palestine; and (2) what is your position on Jews as a people group separate from Israel?
Anyone with a shred of empathy—left, right, or center—should want the best possible outcome for all people. A two-state solution might sound nice in theory, but religion and generations of grudges make it close to impossible. Most of these fights go back to things that happened long before anyone alive today was even born.
And let’s be honest: in 1948, Jewish groups like Haganah, Irgun, and Lehi used violence against the British and Arabs to carve out the state of Israel. That’s not a conspiracy, it is history. But if I have to pick a side, I pick Israel. Why? Because the U.S. needs a reliable ally in the Middle East, Israel has been that ally. That means we back them, we arm them, and we keep them standing.
But supporting an ally doesn’t mean turning a blind eye. Wiping out Palestinians isn’t justice any more than wiping out Jews in the 30s and 40s was. Wrong is wrong. And calling every criticism of Israel ‘antisemitic’ is just lazy—it’s a way to shut down the conversation instead of facing hard truths.
As for Jews as a people—separate from the state—they’ve survived thousands of years of persecution, and still managed to contribute massively to humanity. My respect for Jewish people isn’t conditional on Israeli policy.
Now my question to you is, how does my stance on one subject determine my political leanings as a whole?