• TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      22 hours ago

      They’re not, but is that an excuse to be lawless too? If the enemy commits war crimes, how are you any better if you do the same?

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        You shouldn’t need an excuse to be lawless; laws are usually bad, and never good in cases where something else wouldn’t do the trick.

        They’re a tool for the powerful to save face and appropriate progressive efforts when on the defensive, to divide us and keep us complacent when they’re on the offensive. They are the shield and sword of injustice. Not a fan.

        Your conscience, fine. But laws? That is, at best; clown shit.

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          Thanks to laws I live in a wealthy country where I can walk safely on the street anywhere any time without being in danger. No one has guns, there’s safe infrastructure, crime levels are low. But if you live in the US, a corrupt and failed state, or any other corrupt country, I get your sentiment.

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        oh but history shows they were

        we don’t have to guess how this plays out, educate yourself

        ‘better’ is for the strong and civilized, we are not strong in this mess and civil went out with Jan 6th

        they’ve broken the social contract, they no longer deserve its protection

        but it’s moot, this will go the same way it did in Germany

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            if you’re not in the US I can’t claim to be informed enough

            i do know Nazis are resurfacing everywhere though so more than likely you’re just fucking oblivious

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              15 hours ago

              I’m actively fighting them. Still in a legal way. If war breaks out, then I’ll go to other less lawful ways.

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                read about nazi germany it will be too late

                in the US they are playing boiling the frog and soon they’ll escalate all the way, it will happen fast and violent

                i’m not advocating violence, I’m saying we’re going to regret not having done so

                paradox of tolerance should be required study

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                  read about nazi germany it will be too late

                  Dude, my entire family was in the resistance. My great grandfather hid jews on his farm, was captured, tortured and died in a concentration camp. My family smuggled crashed British pilots back to England and liquidated traitors (family in my mother’s side) and blew up train tracks and communication lines (family on my father’s side). When my grandfather died, we found a huge walk-in closet filled with gas masks, emergency food, machine guns and ammo, a chest filled with hand grenades. In The Netherlands. I’ve had a lot of history lessons in school. Plain history, political history, economic history. I know a lot about nazis, how they come to power, how they work.

                  I see what’s happening right now. The lack of democratic and media resistance right now leads to them gaining power, which will lead us having to escalate to more violent and unlawful measures. I don’t want it to come like that, that’s why I’m politically fighting the far right in my country (and fighting fake news) and even though they have taken too much power in my eyes, they can’t just do whatever the fuck they want.

                  The US, however, is a failed state and the democrats were way to passive (and also too right wing themselves). So there’s no hope. Violence may be the only option. But just don’t dehumanize your enemy, don’t treat others how you don’t want to be treated yourself.