As previously promised, here is a quick recap for the DSA convention that just wrapped up. I could probably write something longer, but I’ll stick to highlights because I am extremely tired.
Democrat Supporters of America Direct Sellers Association Dick Suckers Agency Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) is the largest socialist org in the US with ~90,000 members. It is a mass party with ties to labor unions and a few electeds scattered around the US. Once every two years DSA holds a convention composed of delegates elected from each chapter based on membership size. This year the total delegate count was ~1,200, with the largest delegations being from NYC, LA, and DC.
The convention is the highest decision making body in the org and is tasked with voting on member-submitted resolutions and electing the org’s two co-chairs and its increasingly large National Political Committee (NPC) which is the highest decision making body between conventions. I won’t bore everyone with the individual votes, but I’ll try to explain where the org is at.
DSA is a “big tent” org. This means factions of vastly different tendencies are allowed to operate openly and advocate for their own vision of the org. The ideological range here varies from radlibs who want the org to operate like an NGO, and revolutionary MLs who want to overthrow the government by force. You might predict this produces a contentious body, and it does, but the org has spent the last decade since its rebirth maturing. I’ve been told by long-timers that this was the most comradely convention since 2015.
From what my sleep-deprived brain can remember, here are the biggest decisions we made:
- A large internal reform was passed by DSA’s Democracy Commission based on an analysis of global parties similar to DSA. This included, as some folks have posted, a repeal of a ban on democratic centralism. To be pedantic, the bylaw in question banned any DSA member from being “under the control of a democratic centralist organization” (DSA allows dual-carding). This ban has never been enforced to my knowledge and was probably cooked up by Michael Herrington’s insane brain out of a rabid hatred of communism.
- Speaking of hating Herrington, the org passed its strongest national statements on Zionism, declaring direct support of Israel a red line for membership and electeds that can lead to expulsion. A similar resolution was debated during the 2023 convention and failed. Growth!
- A couple of big electoral resolutions got passed. One says we need to run 10 socialist candidates on an independent ballot line in 2026 (I’m skeptical) and another says we should run a presidential candidate in 2028 (I’m very skeptical we can get a candidate who can win to run).
- Convention voted for National to start up some kind of big Abolish Ice campaign in 2026.
- I’m very proud of the convention for voting down an amendment to our wonderful International Committee’s consensus resolution that would have imposed certain members’ idea of “democracy” and “worker’s rights” onto the considerations of what parties we can and cannot reach out to.
- We voted to delete our Twitter account lmao
I’m sure there’s more but I’m blanking. And I’m also mad we ran out of time to get to vote to censure AOC. Other highlights:
- As you’ve maybe seen already, yes, someone did say that delegates not voting for a One Member, One Vote resolution were like John Adams, slavers, and Jim Crow. No, we did not stop making fun of them all weekend.
- Multiple international guests honored us with their presence, including reps from PT in Brazil and Morena in Mexico, both of whom I was privileged enough to hear speak their message of solidarity to DSA.
- DSA has an excellent relationship with the PCC in Cuba, and had planned to have a delegation from Cuba return this year. Unfortunately (per a rumor I heard), there were concerns about traveling to America (fair), so Carlos Fernández de Cossío, Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs, sent in a video, which was played before the convention body, expressing the plight of the Cuba people and the necessity of international solidarity.
- In a much more unexpected appearance, Jeremy Corbyn also sent a video wishing well to DSA, including a call for something like “A new Atlantic alliance, this time based on peace, cooperation, and socialism.”
- Our keynote speak was Rashida Tlaib. The self-proclaimed “big sister” of DSA fired off some very obvious subliminals at AOC, and demanded more independence from the Dems, and for labor to fight for a free Palestine. She was undoubtedly the greatest speaker we had and it was very comforting to visibly see her bodyguards standing near her.
Most people I spoke to described the convention body as more “left” than ever on virtually every issue, which is visible somewhat in the results of the NPC election having more of a bent towards the left of the org than before. I think the 2027 convention, with a looming presidential race and the much talked about May Day 2028 strike, will have a lot more substantial to chew through.
I’d be happy to answer any questions anyone has.
join dsa if ur not in an org
k goodnight
Oh, and I’d be remiss to not mention, for the benefit of my PSL comrades, that a couple of reps from PSL also spoke, talking about the importance of a strong labor movement and independence from the Dems.
Now that IS promising. There is a fairly good DSA chapter where I am, the ones that started the EWOC actually. They keep asking me to join. Maybe I should.
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Oh that’s awesome, which comrades were present? It’s always nice seeing the national levels get along
Ooh, who?
Dang y’all, I wish I had jotted down their names. I wanted to link up with them after the panel, but they had already split. I got the impression they might be local to Chicago where the convention was held.
Is there anywhere to look to see?
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If it was Chicago then there’s a nonzero chance it was Nino lmao
lmao I didn’t want to jump straight to it being Nino but yeah it’s gotta be Nino
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recap
It does sound like the DSA is getting its ducks in a row after a bunch of stumbles over the last 5 years. If the resolution about expelling Zionists can get enforced I think that’ll be a really good line in the sand moment. I’m not sure where that would lead, if it would tear the org apart or not, but I think it’s interesting to see and shows that people are starting to get a clearer vision of what needs to happen.
Thanks for the summary and here’s to a future full of solidarity
I’m really excited about Cuba’s PCC offering solidarity as well. They’re a miracle of a party and know the game well. Anything they say or any advice they give should be met with full attention.
If the resolution about expelling Zionists can get enforced I think that’ll be a really good line in the sand moment.
The convention has definitely spoken, but the aftermath remains to be seen. DSA has kicked people out but I am not personally aware of any expulsion proceedings, which leads me to believe they are not common. However, I have been told that multiple local chapters have passed similar commitments in the past two years which have been used as cause for intervention on egregious behavior. For reference, here is the text from the reso (there is also a lot of good stuff in there committing us to further pro-Palestinian organizing work):
My local DSA has sort of self selected into anti Zionism. The core is so vocally and vehemently anti zionist that anyone who is sympathetic to Israel leaves on their own lol
Thank you for the recap!!
On the topic of the 2028 presidential election, I agree that it would be very hard to win, but if PSL is anything to go off of then running a candidate is a great way to have people listen to your ideas when you go door-to-door, and to get your message out there.
I won’t bore everyone with the individual votes
I want to be bored with the individual votes!
lol okay here’s the preliminary minutes
LET’S FUCKING GOOOOO
Appreciate the summary from someone who was there.
Actual journalism? On my pig poop balls website? Well done comrade
From what I understand, the left wing of the org swept NPC elections as well, is that true?
If you count the trots, the left has a slight majority. If you dont count them (and you shouldn’t) then the left has a plurality.
Bread and Roses (post trot labor-notes core) and Reform and Revolution (A split from Socialist Alternative) are now the king makers, so expect DSA’s foreign policy to continue to be rough.
post-trot
Good god that describes so much of DSA leadership.
I mean DSA was founded by trots that hated the Soviet Union so much that they re-embraced liberal democracy so it’s no surprise.
No all of the Trots are new. DSA’s lineage is entirely anti-leninist, all the way back to the SPA. Frankly most of the existing anti-demcent attitudes comes from hatred of trots more than MLs.
(SPA -> SDUSA -> DSOC) + (SDS -> NAM)
No one has a majority. You can break down the results in such a way that there is a slight “left” majority, but the left/right dichotomy in DSA factions is most useful as shorthand. The caucuses themselves have very mixed politics and none of them always get it right IMO. But the results are encouraging.
We voted to delete our Twitter account lmao
Do they have a Mastodon account yet? It looks like some chapters have them but I don’t see a national one. Looks like they have a Bluesky account but I think Mastodon is more “open” system.
the org passed its strongest national statements on Zionism, declaring direct support of Israel a red line for membership and electeds that can lead to expulsion.
going forward, what’s the vibes around aoc then? just in general, not necessarily directly related to the resolution
There was a resolution we did not have time for to censure AOC which I firmly believe would have passed at this convention. I’m happy we (mostly) spent our time on commitments to action and not statements, but I would have liked to see us crack the whip a little.
In general, especially with Zohran becoming a poster child for what actual DSA cadre running for office can look like, sentiment on AOC has soured significantly among all but the most rightist factions.
What does the path to censuring her look like now? Waiting until the next convention? All things considered the outcomes of this convention seem great
All items left on the agenda at the end of convention are referred to the NPC. While I would certainly like them to vote to censure her, I suspect it will be the opinion of even some of the left flank of the NPC that censuring such a visible figure without the full backing of a convention vote will lead to a lot of internal and external criticism that they probably don’t feel like dealing with. Maybe I’ll be surprised.
in your opinion, if she were censured, would she change her behavior?
No clue! Gun to my head, I’d guess she would continue to crash out on Twitter, saying something like “I’ll continue doing the real work for Palestinians and my district despite what uninvolved and unimportant haters say!!” and then her staff would stop answering our emails.
shame about our elected officials. thanks for the insight.
She’ll have to triangulate harder. If she could ditch DSA and become a DNC sweet heart she probably would. But the Dems have made it clear that’s not an option though.
Well apparently there was going to be a vote on censuring her but the convention ran out of time.
Sound like mostly good news! I’m happy. Hopefully the left can start getting it’s shit together in the US away from the Democratic Party.
My question is what kind of things did Tlaib subliminally say about AOC?
My question is what kind of things did Tlaib subliminally say about AOC?
I was going to try and recap, but judge for yourself! The remarks in question start at 6:45.
Ooh that did seem pretty pointed lol
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Keep side eyeing the dsa application lately. Then I remember what it was actually like being in it. Regardless, if any more friends ask me what is to be done I think the best start is getting involved with DSA
DSA really is big tent. I’m in DSA.
Is DSA a mass party? From what I seen they never identify as a party, only as an org
This has IMO been one of the most significant developments since 2016. When I first joined I heard the same thing, but since then there is a vast majority consensus that DSA is a socialist party, though our exact strategies for party building are perhaps the most debated, written about, and analyzed aspect of our work right now.
Hell yeah thanks for the write up
Thanks for the writeup. Promising developments for sure.
How strong or influential is Red Star at the national level?
Red Star is the only ML caucus, right? I hear MUG isn’t exactly ML.
Red Star is the only ML caucus with a seat on the NPC. MUG is Kautskyist and imo struggles with being under practiced and organizing and having an electoral bent.
Communist Caucus is also ML but abstains from leadership elections, instead focusing on poaching DSA people for tenant, labor and anti-prison organizing. When they need something to happen nationally they usually lobby Bread and Roses (the pro-labor center caucus) to bring it forward for them.
Imo theyre the realest caucus in DSA by a long shot.
Theres also local ML caucuses like Black Red Guard’s thing, Red Labor, and Emerge.
I’ve organized closely with communist caucus members and they are not MLs. I have heard different members go on rants against tankies on many occasions. I won’t say more specifics so I don’t dox myself but those people are some of the worst settlers I’ve ever organized with
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CC is all anarchists that read Lenin and made their own left-communism from it.
This is a perfect description
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I would assume only someone who is in B&R would say that? Haha
But either way people like to promote their party on here, whether that’s DSA or PSL, so I can see someone trying to see the best in them. Weird thing to say though.
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What I would say is people usually categorize B&R as “left” when compared to SMC and GW, totally discounting international issues. As far as I can tell B&R might be the absolute furthest right on international issues of any major caucus. I’m weirdly glad they did not do well on the NPC this convention.
Yes, I’ve seen so much heinous shit come from of DSA members that I can’t say because it would dox me, but I have been surprised by the sentiments here towards DSA.
I haven’t interacted with SM because I’ve never been a DSA member and only interacted with DSA members in organizing spaces outside DSA that their members are involved in. When it comes to caucuses like SM and B&R, it is easy to spot their terrible politics from a mile away, but with CC they posture so much to be “the good ones” that I think they are worse for being manipulative and deceitful. I wrote out the things I’ve seen them do but deleted it because it does feel like a way to get identified.
Edit: also they are huge rojava stans
Would you say Red Star is generally better, besides or in addition to being ML?
They do seem better from the outside but I haven’t worked with them directly. I did meet a few at a party once and one of them was arguing in favor of electoralism and using Venezuela as an example of how electoralism could work in the US to bring about socialism. I referenced this in one of the recent Mamdani struggle sessions. I liked that they were pro Venezuela but immediately thought it was a display of their lack of understanding of dialectical and historical materialism to assume that the conditions in Venezuela which lead to Chavismo were anything similar to the US
Thanks for the heads up about MUG, that was my impression but just wanted to confirm.
Besides being ML, how’s Red Star usually?
So full disclosure I’m an anarchist but generally I like having either Red Star or Bread and Roses in leadership. Red Star is big on setting priorities for chapters and then having the whole chapter throw their weight behind it, which is exhausting when that priority is a candidate campaign and very cool when its anything else.
They also are big on two-camp anti-imperialism, which can sometimes be useful at cutting through the bullshit but can lead to edge lord behavior like the time they cyber-bullied a trot for being rude to a Cuban diplomat or the time they released a pamphlet entitled “we commend hamas.” Like, neither of those things are neccesarily wrong, but theyre internet behavior, not irl organizing behavior.
like the time they cyber-bullied a trot for being rude to a Cuban diplomat
If you’re talking about the delegation trip, the people who were responsible for the “protests” (and were rude not just to a diplomat but to Diaz-Canel himself) shouldn’t be able to show their face in public again. It was definitely good that they immediately published a denouncement of this behavior.
Oh no, it was rude as hell, but being in community where we’re actually accountable to each other means pulling them aside and privately going “dude wtf” and then doing a polite and formal public apology.
The internet flaming was unfortunate and gauche, but the kind of shit you get with MLs since most of them were radicalized online before they started IRL organizing.
How much of an apology did we actually get from the rogue faction of delegates? I’d expect they apologized for procedural violations and that’s it. This wasn’t just some offhand bad response or misbehavior at a single night’s event, it was a premeditated little campaign where they chose again and again to do the wrong thing even when the disciplined part of the delegation gave them a negative response. Denouncing them is completely appropriate; They set themselves up with deliberation and independent effort as a hostile agitating force that is at the same time completely unserious about addressing their issues with the Cuban state (or else they might have thought it helpful to talk to the fucking President about their complaints!).
The internet flaming was unfortunate and gauche, but the kind of shit you get with MLs since most of them were radicalized online before they started IRL organizing.
Give me a break
they cyber-bullied a trot for being rude to a Cuban diplomat
Are you referencing Maria during the trip to Cuba?
Thanks for the heads up!