• MushuChupacabra@lemmy.worldOP
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          As in nope thinking the regime is going to fall is just copium hopium

          Refresh my memory. How long were they boasting that the Third Reich would last?

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            There are many counterexamples to the third reich. China and Russia have been police states for a long time, with no end in sight.

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              Both Russia and China have long histories of centralized authority.

              Most western powers have been comparatively short lived, constantly expanding and fragmenting into new power structures. That includes the US, which has always had back and a forth infighting between state level and federal powers. I give the current regime a decade more (they have been building up for decades) due to speed running the few things they could use to placate the populace into the ground.

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                You may be right… I just wish I could be as optimistic as you are. The political opposition to Trump’s changes is very, very weak, and with all the money ICE has now, I’m afraid any popular movement will be swiftly repressed.

                Let’s hope US citizens are as resilient as they believe they are.

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            They said they would be guardians of power for a thousand generations. The reich lasted 12 years. So given that it’s this year theyre going full nazi, you can expect them out in 2037.

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              They said they would be guardians of power for a thousand generations. The reich lasted 12 years.

              So they lasted less than a thousandth of the length of time that they chipped about.

              Therefore, we should always disregard the boasting of fascists.

              So given that it’s this year theyre going full nazi, you can expect them out in 2037.

              There are parallels, but Hitler wasn’t an elderly incontinent man with dementia. While both men are fucking idiots, one of them had functioning short term memory, and was able to not shit himself.

              Also, have you given any sort of thought to how many firearms are floating out there in civilian hands?

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                Hitler wasn’t an elderly incontinent man with dementia. While both men are fucking idiots, one of them had functioning short term memory, and was able to not shit himself.

                Trump isn’t the source of fascism in the us, he’s just the face of it.

                Also, have you given any sort of thought to how many firearms are floating out there in civilian hands?

                Who are they going to shoot? Are they going to walk around town asking strangers if they’re nazis?

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                  It’s as though you’re attempting to fulfill a brief:

                  Discourage pushback against the Trump regime at all costs. Amplifying the idea that resistance is futile.

                  I see you.

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      While I share your pessimism, I also know that some of these dudes are just scared to lose their job. I’m not saying that they are innocent just that they are in the same boat we all are with our jobs. If I got fired I’d be bankrupt in a month if not less. I’m sure there are plenty of ICE that we don’t see that are freaking the fuck out. The only ones we see in clips online are the ones that will immediately volunteer when asked if they want to go arrest some brown people.

      And to reiterate, that does not make these guys innocent. They are complacent and watching this happen without lifting a finger to help. The “just following orders” crowd, if you will.

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        “just following orders” wasn’t a valid excuse at Nuremberg, and it won’t be a valid excuse in 2028 in the Washington Trials.