https://www.stopkillinggames.com/

Stop Killing Games is an European Citizens Initiative aiming to keep games playable even after their developers and publishers have stopped supporting it.

To get the initiative onto the EUs agenda so it has the chance to become EU law, it has to both reach 1 million signatures total and minimum thresholds in at least 7 countries. Those national thresholds have been thresholds have been reached. Now it’s all about getting to 1 million signatures total.

Even if you are from a country that already reached the threshold you can still sign. Your signature counts to the 1 million goal.

  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    181·
    3 days ago

    Man what the fuck are you talking about, it requires an EU, country specific verification document(s)/id(s), or the intraEU digital ID to verify you are an actual real person who lives where you say you do.

    Examples:

    Estonia

    Portugal

    Poland

    … etc.

    • TheChargedCreeper864@lemmy.ml
      4·
      3 days ago

      I’m with you with the fact that I don’t believe there to be any serious botting attempts, but I didn’t need a digital ID to sign from the Netherlands.

      I think they will verify with the municipality of the person who signed whether they actually exist. Theoretically you could sign on someone you know this information for, but I think IP logging would burn you pretty quick if even one of those is bogus/duplicate.

      Also, I don’t know whether such signatures would be counted before any verification would take place

      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        4·
        3 days ago

        I mean yeah, technically there will be some EU member states with different guidelines (due to different id/privacy laws) where maybe yes, a few of them could theoretically maybe be pumped up by a bot.

        But uh, for some thing… you’d need a fairly well done bot net to even kind of pull that off for long.

        As in like, a new and convincingly distinct bot/ip to burn for each signature, that is actually an ip that makes geo sense for the person/real world address it is spoofing…

        As you say: basic ip logging.

        If its all coming from… a single, or small number of ips… assuming the EU is at least as competent of a server admin as I am, yeah, that’s gonna look pretty fuckywucky in the logs, probably get noticed within 24 hours max.

        And yes, I also seriously doubt there would not be some kind of verification of signees at at least some level, that would be initiated after all the thresholds are passed.

        But its wildly innacurate to portray this as if… oh yeah any idiot vibe coder could just drill this up to whatever number after 30 minutes.

        That was the way the internet worked back in 2006, or how stupid say Twitter polls are now.

        Not the same level of inept incompetence going on with EU government websites.

    • The Octonaut@mander.xyz
      111·
      3 days ago

      You know you can just fill in what you want right? And the number goes up? They even put the format right there.

      Ask ChatGPT to make you a script to fill in that form with Beautiful Soup. Takes 30 seconds, if you haven’t already.

      It’s cool that you led with Estonia, the one that was botted to 100% signatures a couple of days ago.

      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        101·
        3 days ago

        You are an idiot.

        No you cannot fill in any number you want.

        This is an official EU webportal for formal citizens initiatives petitions.

        Like, ok, I guess you could just spam it with a bot/script, and then INTERPOL comes after you for fucking with an official government website, potentially hundreds or thousands of counts of attempted impersonation / identity theft and lying on a government/legal document.

        Like sure, go do a DDOS on I dunno, whitehouse.gov, or your US’s state’s unemployment assistance application web portal.

        Those are approximately equivalently stupid things to do.

        I repeat: You are an idiot.

        • The Octonaut@mander.xyz
          18·
          3 days ago

          No you cannot

          (16 words later)

          Like, ok, I guess you could

          lol

          OK buddy, cybercrime never happens and interpol will come arrest your python script if it did because you messed with an EU “government” form that might have resulted in them having to get a 60 year old Greek politican to ask what a EULA was

          • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            71·
            3 days ago

            You don’t get it.

            What happens if you try to just brute force guess at a bunch of possible credit card numbers and addresses and names in some kind of online store?

            After maybe a couple of tries, 30 seconds or less of that… the system is rejecting your bullshit fake numbers everytime, and after enough, it auto ip bans you, sends an email to the security admin team, and your journey to getting a chat from INTERPOL or the FBI or what not has now officially begun.

            This system doesn’t just accept any old random bullshit you give it.

            It is not a random slapdash online poll.

            Its only going to count up on that total signatures count if the system actually verifies the info you put in as being consistent with an actual, real, specific person in the system.

            I again repeat: You are an idiot.

            And I use idiot specifically: you are not only drastically misinformed, but determined, and seem to think very dangerous actions… are not dangerous… you think very unfeasible methods… are feasible.