Boycotting because they used generative AI to make their game instead of hiring writers. Even if this was the only part of the game they used it on (if you believe that, l have a bridge to seII you), I’m not going to give someone money if they couldn’t even be fucked to hire some sci-fi writer off of fiverr to write their fill text with it.
I personally know artists and writers who are having to get jobs at fucking Walmart because of this shit. I’ll be less irate about generative AI once we have universal basic income so that real artists can continue to generate real art alongside these soulless husks.
Correct! If you’re not going to support artists and writers, the least you can do is not support the industry that’s actively destroying the fields of art and writing (on top of the myraid other problems with generative AI)
The guy who used ai to make some technobabble lipsum for an asset was an artist hired by the company. You can see a huge list of the artists that worked on The Alters in the credits. They all got paid. This artist would take home the same wage for typing “gshsjajfkfksiwn” in that asset, or copy and pasting some numbers that were in a readout from a space telescope, or literally using lorem ipsum. If we’re really micromanaging every art shortcut as “potential pay to hire more artists” now, why not start counting how many rock/plant/sky/water textures and models in The Alters (or FF7 Rebirth, or literally any UE5 game) are pre-baked assets included with the UE5 license? Game devs actually use those instead of billable hours / salaried hires.
So do you just not play video games at all? Because the way you’ve just presented yourself you’re not against using AI in games, you’re against any use of AI.
How can you be sure that in any game AI wasn’t used to generate some sort of an internal document or asset that would never be in the final product but was integral to the creation of the final product? Clearly you don’t write every dev and ask if they use AI in any capacity, so what do you do?
My point is that I think you’re taking a stance where you’re unwilling to compromise on the use of AI, but only if you’re aware that AI was used.
How can you be sure that in any game AI wasn’t used to generate some sort of an internal document or asset that would never be in the final product but was integral to the creation of the final product?
I never claimed to be omniscient. I simply don’t support a company after I find out that they have unethical business practices. What are you not understanding about this?
That’s like saying you boycot Nestle but won’t stop using any of their subsidiary products unless you accidentally find out that a brand not named Nestle is actually owned by Nestle.
You had a bridge to sell to anyone with the naivete to believe it’s the only place AI was used. What about your naivity of believing that other games are not using AI, unless of course you stumble on the information about AI usage? Seems hypocritical to criticize others for giving the benefit of doubt while giving the benefit of doubt to all other developers simply because you don’t know any better?
Boycotting because someone made a mistake? Ok
Boycotting because they used generative AI to make their game instead of hiring writers. Even if this was the only part of the game they used it on (if you believe that, l have a bridge to seII you), I’m not going to give someone money if they couldn’t even be fucked to hire some sci-fi writer off of fiverr to write their fill text with it.
I personally know artists and writers who are having to get jobs at fucking Walmart because of this shit. I’ll be less irate about generative AI once we have universal basic income so that real artists can continue to generate real art alongside these soulless husks.
So they shouldn’t even use it as placeholder assets, instead of Lorem Ipsum?
Correct! If you’re not going to support artists and writers, the least you can do is not support the industry that’s actively destroying the fields of art and writing (on top of the myraid other problems with generative AI)
The guy who used ai to make some technobabble lipsum for an asset was an artist hired by the company. You can see a huge list of the artists that worked on The Alters in the credits. They all got paid. This artist would take home the same wage for typing “gshsjajfkfksiwn” in that asset, or copy and pasting some numbers that were in a readout from a space telescope, or literally using lorem ipsum. If we’re really micromanaging every art shortcut as “potential pay to hire more artists” now, why not start counting how many rock/plant/sky/water textures and models in The Alters (or FF7 Rebirth, or literally any UE5 game) are pre-baked assets included with the UE5 license? Game devs actually use those instead of billable hours / salaried hires.
No artist or writer would have been hired for producing placeholder assets.
So do you just not play video games at all? Because the way you’ve just presented yourself you’re not against using AI in games, you’re against any use of AI.
How can you be sure that in any game AI wasn’t used to generate some sort of an internal document or asset that would never be in the final product but was integral to the creation of the final product? Clearly you don’t write every dev and ask if they use AI in any capacity, so what do you do?
My point is that I think you’re taking a stance where you’re unwilling to compromise on the use of AI, but only if you’re aware that AI was used.
I never claimed to be omniscient. I simply don’t support a company after I find out that they have unethical business practices. What are you not understanding about this?
Got it, you’re fine with AI usage as long as you don’t know about it.
No? I just don’t know that I should avoid a product if I don’t know about the ethical problems with it. That’s how boycotts work…
That’s like saying you boycot Nestle but won’t stop using any of their subsidiary products unless you accidentally find out that a brand not named Nestle is actually owned by Nestle.
You had a bridge to sell to anyone with the naivete to believe it’s the only place AI was used. What about your naivity of believing that other games are not using AI, unless of course you stumble on the information about AI usage? Seems hypocritical to criticize others for giving the benefit of doubt while giving the benefit of doubt to all other developers simply because you don’t know any better?