• thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org
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    22 hours ago

    my tech department recently unionized, its great

    one of the best things about it is enforcing the “other duties as required” and setting a hard limit on what that means, management has to accept it and they hate that shit

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      management has to accept it

      Do they have to accept it by law? I’m realizing I don’t really understand how unions work. What is it that actually transfers the power from the company to the workers just by unionizing?

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    Solid post from Drew, agree with everything there.

    He mentions doing your best to join in your local communities with like minded folk. Here’s a good guide on how and where those folk might be to join up with.

    And if you follow his advice to unionize, I highly recommend the IWW. They’ll help you form a grassroots union that’s directly controlled by you and your coworkers. And they’ll help you no matter what kind of job you have! Beefing it up is one of the best things we can do to resist.

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      I’ve been saying this for such a long time, the tech industry needs unions. It also needs crowd sourced legal assistance as well because it isn’t going to be easy. They’ll fire of course at first despite being illegal, then they’ll want migrants that they can threaten with deportation if they don’t comply. Even if Trump goes away, unions will be necessary to keep corporations accountable.

      Although I don’t support sabotage for the time being & strongly oppose it in almost every way. It isn’t just risky, but I feel many times it ends up legitimizing the groups you’re trying to protect others from. I feel it would make matters substantially worse before the potential of making things better, but at that point you may have just invited the next generation of fascism to use your actions to justify theirs.

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        It also needs crowd sourced legal assistance

        Basically any union in Germany has access to an army of lawyers, your dues double as legal insurance covering anything related to work and welfare.

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          Yes, but even before you get to that point. Like I said they’ll fight dirty at first, so having assistance to even be able to get to that point requires community efforts.

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        I don’t support sabotage for the time being

        What a wild goddamn thing to say when US citizen children with cancer are being rounded up and deported to countries they’ve never lived in. Please, share. Where have you drawn the line?

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          20 hours ago

          I didn’t say not to draw a line. I just said I was opposed to sabbatoge for the time being. There are lots of other things you can do right now to work towards restoring diplomacy.

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            Great, so I’m asking you. Where is your line, beyond which sabotage is suddenly morally justified?

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              When the courts have shown multiple times that they no longer care about the constitution. Right now we have the Supreme Court ruling against the Trump admin’s illegal deportations. Unfortunately it takes time for the process to play out. I am optimistic that the courts will for now maintain the checks & balances. The courts are the strongest protection against Trump’s authoritarian attempts.

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                  Maybe you should study some law to understand how the courts work. He can’t even impeach federal judges. It takes 2/3 majority just like it does for President.

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        It isn’t just risky, but I feel many times it ends up legitimizing the groups you’re trying to protect others from.

        Fascists don’t need you to justify their fascism.

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          21 hours ago

          I tend to agree, but not entirely.

          The point I was making here is you start sabotaging & can end up harming people that may have been allies. As they say, the road to hell is often paved with good intentions.

          Second, the more you start demanding people do what you want else you’ll sabotage, attack them, etc… Your ideas really aren’t that much different than those of fascists either.