Canada isn’t simply in cooperation WITH imperialism, IT IS an imperialist power, you need to do research on the havoc Canadian mining firms wreck across the world and the support Canada offers to neo-nazis forces globally
The fact an imperialist power can lose an inter-imperialist conflict doesn’t negate the fact of what it’s government and institutions are, and those relationships don’t change even if it loses, it simply switches ownership to a new set of imperialists, again we wouldn’t be dealing with a national liberation government struggling against a bully, we’d be dealing with a quisling government getting wacked by its overlord, and you’re saying the socialist position should be to intervene and prop up the quislings for the sake of…national pride? A vague sense of sovereignty? A hopeless hope of settlers joining forces with the indigenous? Like NO flat out, NO
This is exactly the problem, that your anti-imperialism is conditional and until any (hypothetical) national resistance struggle meets your criteria
There is no ideological conditionality or criteria on my part, it simply needs to possess the quality of EXISTING, and that’s independent of any list of ideals I would prefer, my comment you quoted is simply me not taking the idea of imaginary revolutions seriously
Cuz tbh, the settler Canadian government doesn’t have the juice to resist this shit anyway if it gets real
Exactly, so WHY DO YOU WANT US TO SUPPORT IT lMAO!??! What cause it’s the “moral” and “neighborly” thing to do? I’m not a Canadian nationalist
Idk, in summary… were the Chinese communists wrong for working with Chiang Kai-Shek in the anti-Japanese war?
The Sino-Japanese War was not an inter-imperialist conflict, it was a war of annihilation and fascist expansion, is the US gonna genocide the Canucks now?
You’re legit reading the worst things possible into what I said
lmao I got called an “imperial chauvinist” and a “raging misanthrope” in this thread because I think critical support for an imperialist government that gave a standing ovation to an SS officer isn’t a tenable position for socialists to advance, so let’s not get precious or in our feelings all right
OBVIOUSLY we extend solidarity to the working class of Canada no matter what the US and the SS loving Canuck state decides to do, but that is not the same thing as cheerleading whatever bullshit response the Canadian gov cooks up in response to Trump’s expansionist mood, especially when that response will be, as some comments have already predicted; a partial or full surrender
Disagreements happen, you had your takes, I had mine, we both should’ve been more charitable, but misunderstandings happen in the heat of the moment and perhaps I was a little too defensive, I’m sorry too
You didn’t upset me and I hope I didn’t ruin your day cause that’s the last thing I want, you got a big heart comrade and that’s no crime, have a good night
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Canada isn’t simply in cooperation WITH imperialism, IT IS an imperialist power, you need to do research on the havoc Canadian mining firms wreck across the world and the support Canada offers to neo-nazis forces globally
The fact an imperialist power can lose an inter-imperialist conflict doesn’t negate the fact of what it’s government and institutions are, and those relationships don’t change even if it loses, it simply switches ownership to a new set of imperialists, again we wouldn’t be dealing with a national liberation government struggling against a bully, we’d be dealing with a quisling government getting wacked by its overlord, and you’re saying the socialist position should be to intervene and prop up the quislings for the sake of…national pride? A vague sense of sovereignty? A hopeless hope of settlers joining forces with the indigenous? Like NO flat out, NO
There is no ideological conditionality or criteria on my part, it simply needs to possess the quality of EXISTING, and that’s independent of any list of ideals I would prefer, my comment you quoted is simply me not taking the idea of imaginary revolutions seriously
Exactly, so WHY DO YOU WANT US TO SUPPORT IT lMAO!??! What cause it’s the “moral” and “neighborly” thing to do? I’m not a Canadian nationalist
The Sino-Japanese War was not an inter-imperialist conflict, it was a war of annihilation and fascist expansion, is the US gonna genocide the Canucks now?
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lmao I got called an “imperial chauvinist” and a “raging misanthrope” in this thread because I think critical support for an imperialist government that gave a standing ovation to an SS officer isn’t a tenable position for socialists to advance, so let’s not get precious or in our feelings all right
OBVIOUSLY we extend solidarity to the working class of Canada no matter what the US and the SS loving Canuck state decides to do, but that is not the same thing as cheerleading whatever bullshit response the Canadian gov cooks up in response to Trump’s expansionist mood, especially when that response will be, as some comments have already predicted; a partial or full surrender
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Disagreements happen, you had your takes, I had mine, we both should’ve been more charitable, but misunderstandings happen in the heat of the moment and perhaps I was a little too defensive, I’m sorry too
You didn’t upset me and I hope I didn’t ruin your day cause that’s the last thing I want, you got a big heart comrade and that’s no crime, have a good night
Get his ass.