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The CIA is the mother of European democracies? What?
The CIA (and similar organisations) prop up the international economic order of grossly unequal exchange with the global south that allows European social democracies to exist. The point is that liberals will point to European Social Democracies as a model to emulate, without realising that they can only exist by offshoring so much of their economy to the global south.
That account basically boils down to “China number one, Ukraine is run by nazis, booo USA”
Ukraine is run by nazis, booo USA
Where’s the lie
In the first half.
Ukraine is run by nazis
Or are we playing the “everyone I dont like is a nazi” game? In that case, Russia and my HoA is run by Nazis!
nah we’re just reading what mainstream western media reported before the start of the war
- https://khpg.org/en/1528928862
- https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30414955
- https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28329329
- https://archive.ph/ckwv4
- https://www.ft.com/content/7191ec30-9677-423d-873c-e72b64725c2d
- https://gordonhahn.com/2015/05/02/ukraines-neo-fascist-right-sector-claims-responsibility-again-for-2-may-2014-terrorist-pogrom/
- http://www.errc.org/news/anti-roma-pogroms-in-ukraine-on-c14-and-tolerating-terror
So… A handful of articles about individuals in Ukraine, a march of 300 nazi sympathizers, actions of a reported terrorist organization, and an article that states the following:
Ever since Ukraine’s February revolution, the Kremlin has characterised the new leaders in Kiev as a “fascist junta” made up of neo-Nazis and anti-Semites, set on persecuting, if not eradicating, the Russian-speaking population. This is demonstrably false. Far-right parties failed to pass a 5% barrier to enter parliament
You just wasted a lot of my time… Many countries have idiots, my own has plenty of jackasses who could be called Nazi sympathizers. That doesn’t mean the country is run by Nazis, and to claim such is very obviously propaganda. I wonder if you would be so willing to generalize a whole nation and its government if the rubberband was on the other claw?
- https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/if-russia-serious-about-de-nazification-it-should-start-home
- https://theconversation.com/putins-fascists-the-russian-states-long-history-of-cultivating-homegrown-neo-nazis-178535
- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazism_in_Russia
- https://www.latrobe.edu.au/news/articles/2022/opinion/russias-long-history-of-neo-nazis
- https://meduza.io/en/feature/2024/12/06/neo-nazi-street-attacks-are-making-a-comeback-in-russia-experts-link-it-to-2000s-nostalgia-internet-clout-culture-and-the-war
Weird way to say articles about nazis having brigades and having close ties to the government. Many countries have idiots, but not many countries have open fascists int their military and government. Sorry I took your valuable time away from sniffing glue there. This clearly was too complex a topic for you to have a discussion on.
Lol, many countries do have open fascists in their military and government, Russia and the United States among them. Funny thing about folks who are willing to kill for their country, they are often ultra nationalists. A couple of the articles I sent you clearly demonstrate this in regards to Russia.
Regardless, you never even came close to supporting the claim “Ukraine is run by Nazis”. Worse for your point still, one of your sources stated clearly that said claim is demonstrably not true.
And while fascists and Nazis should be called out and shutdown on every level in every country, including Ukraine, exaggerating the extent to which these ideologies have infiltrated a government to justify war is blatantly propaganda and evil.
I’ll take your personal attacks on me as you admitting you overstated the strength of your “evidence”. Next time someone makes a clear cut argument like “Ukraine is run by Nazis”, don’t provide evidence that literally says that’s not the case and then pretend like it supports the claim. That’s not “too complex to understand”, that’s just lying.
stay mad
Ah fuck, didn’t look at the instance this was posted on.
That isn’t really a counter to the claims presented, though.
I’m not gonna look for a diamond in this pile of horseshit.
You don’t seem to find much of anything with your head so far buried in the sand, but whatever floats your boat.
the only pile of shit here is the one that wrote the above comment
This is how a bad player reacts when they realize they been playing ranked.
Git gud.
